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honeybun

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Re: feeling dreadful
« Reply #420 on: December 12, 2013, 04:24:10 PM »

The trouble is that with valium/diazepam type drugs the more you take the more you need to get the same effect. You can become addicted very quickly and then coming off them brings its own set of problems. It can cause the same set of symptoms that you took them for in the first place.

I would use with extreme caution and try not to use many at all and certainly not bring the doses closer together.
That path will lead to problems.

If you Google diazepam addiction you can read all the details and it does not make pleasant reading at all.

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bev567901

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« Reply #421 on: December 12, 2013, 04:32:16 PM »

Hi Ladies is it hot or is it just me?  I even have my hair in a ponytail something I normally do in the Summer. I think that list CLKD mentions is a brilliant idea Mags. I used to put what I had done but now I just use it for medical reasons, what time I took meds & if I don't feel great. If there is very little written it means a good day now unless I do something really amazing!  Its really good to look back on & can be cyclical.
Mr Tibbles (not fluffy now) is here. Such a good boy so far. You could put him in your pocket he is so tiny, I am busy finding things for him to play with & stopping the kids thinking he is going to hurt himself. They don't remember our cat & don't understand they are safe on the landing etc & are being like mother hens  :cat88: xx
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bev567901

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Re: feeling dreadful
« Reply #422 on: December 12, 2013, 04:40:48 PM »

Honeybun, I can go from a very bad day to a good day in a heartbeat. I was taking up to 15mg a day when I was on the sertraline at the end of Sept, now to nothing or 2mg a day. The fact I have them is enough to help. I find if they are there I don't need them. Silly really. The sertraline is such a horrible drug it goes hand in hand with it & in the US they prescribe their equivalents. It is highly addictive but some people are just not capable of getting that way. I have only been properly drunk once in my life.  I think as soon as the sertraline takes effect the need for the diazepam goes away xx
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Taz2

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Re: feeling dreadful
« Reply #423 on: December 12, 2013, 05:26:13 PM »

I have to agree about being cautious with Diazepam but that's because my mother-in-law spent years virtually housebound due to being addicted to it and not realising that her increasing anxiety and inability to walk properly were down to the drug and not the anxiety it was first prescribed for. She had a terrible time with withdrawal over two years but now is free of it and is once again self sufficient and able to do her own shopping etc. and has just returned from a holiday. It has it's place of course in the short term but you can become addicted very quickly and need more and more to achieve the same results.

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mags

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« Reply #424 on: December 12, 2013, 06:04:37 PM »

 Hi to you all and thanks for the advice, Bev the new little kitty sounds lovely and I am sure he will be spoilt to bits   :)  Love the new name as well :)      I have to say I am very worried and confused about all the conflicting advice on diazepam,   I never take more than two a day and sometimes have none,  does that mean I will get addicted :-\
I do make a list of things I have achieved and that helps as well, no matter how small those  things are, today for example I  sorted some washing and  did a bit of cleaning and yest wrote out some more Christmas cards.
 Here's hoping we all recover soonxx   
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honeybun

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Re: feeling dreadful
« Reply #425 on: December 12, 2013, 06:54:54 PM »

You really should speak to your GP if you are worried. It all depends on the strength you are taking and how long you take them for.
No one wants to scare or worry you but it is something you have to be aware of as they are terribly addictive.
They would not produce diazepam in syrup form to help wean off people who are addicted if it was not a problem.
Sorry....It's probably not what you want to hear but it's something you should know about.


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bev567901

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Re: feeling dreadful
« Reply #426 on: December 12, 2013, 07:28:41 PM »

Mags, I think the fact you can go without for a day is good. It is for short term use though & as long as you are not going up & up. I think most GP's these days wouldn't prescribe them if they thought you where taking too many I think they have learnt from the past. I think everything in moderation.  I come from a family of non tablet takers so haven't seen bad effects so I guess I am biased. But I look upon it as if a small amount of diazepam got you to get out to a. then b. would come along pretty soon & then you would be up to c. & on & on. Sometimes when our confidence has taken a huge knock we need something just to kick start us again so to speak. I would check with your GP at your next appt as a precaution but the main thing is that you are one week in on your sertraline extra dose now so that has to be applauded.xxxx
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mags

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Re: feeling dreadful
« Reply #427 on: December 12, 2013, 07:53:12 PM »

Hi Bev, you are very good, and thanks for that,  I have asked my GP about it several times  and both he and the female GP I have seen both said it was  fine to take them, my therapist also said the same thing.   I just tend to worry about what is causing what and get myself into a state :-\  especially with feeling so vunerable at the mo.     Big hugs to you :hug:  xxxxxxxx
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CLKD

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Re: feeling dreadful
« Reply #428 on: December 12, 2013, 08:28:17 PM »

I took Valium on an 'as necessary ' basis for years.  Usually the night before an event that I had to go to.

If 5mg helps then stick with that dose.  If you require 5 in the morning and 5 at night, then try that for 3-5 days.  If you find that taking this dose regularly isn't helping then speak to your GP about how much you can take at this particular time.  We are much more aware of addiction.  I have an obsessive personality so if anyone was going to get addicted  ::)
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JJ

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« Reply #429 on: December 12, 2013, 11:21:31 PM »

Hi mags - you've written Christmas cards :)well done. When I was in the throes of my meno meltdown I was given Valium to give me some peace whilst the anti depressants kicking in. Doctors are cautious in their prescribing of Valium and I think they can gauge well enough when someone needs then. I think if my dog was as rough as I felt the vet would have given her them. Used sensibly they are okay-you sound sensible to me. Don't worry, once you begin to feel better you honestly won't want one.  X keep going mags I know it's difficult but you will slowly begin to feel better. Keep making those lists of what you've achieved , perhaps scoring certain tasks then you will see that on some days you are making progress. You can pm me anytime if you want to. Hope this makes sense I'm typing it on phone and need my glasses on!
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bev567901

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Re: feeling dreadful
« Reply #430 on: December 13, 2013, 12:11:59 AM »

Mags we just need a jump start don't we!! Once we are off we will not be recognisable. It is past midnight, I have been up since 4.40am & not stopped all day. Just finished some doggy paperwork. I really need to go out tomorrow to get some special wine that I can't get home delivered, I need it for presents for tomorrow night. I really want to go, I intend to go. I hope I go. I will go!!!  In the meantime sleep I hope, & here's to waking up with the alarm not with the dog ;D xx
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mags

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Re: feeling dreadful
« Reply #431 on: December 13, 2013, 12:03:32 PM »

Hi JJ and thanks for your kind words.  I try to keep telling myself that it will get better  but struggling at the minute :(   I will PM you sometime, thanks,    you did well to type this on your phone, I take ages  to do texts, even with my glasses on ;   Sending you a big :thankyou:  Love Magsxx
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mags

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« Reply #432 on: December 13, 2013, 12:11:23 PM »

Hi Bev,  yes I think we do need a jumpstart but it sounds as though you are doing a lot better than me, especially to have kept going all day. I am sure you will manage to get out  for the wine, you definitely seem to be on the up :)   I am still very low and very anxious but trying to keep going :( xxxx
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CLKD

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Re: feeling dreadful
« Reply #433 on: December 13, 2013, 12:24:41 PM »

'jumpstart' is a good expression!  I think we expect too much of ourselves particularly as it is 'that time of year'  ;)

(Valium and Diazapam are the same ;-) )
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Dyan

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Re: feeling dreadful
« Reply #434 on: December 13, 2013, 01:05:48 PM »

For you mags :bighug: and for anyone not feeling good today.
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