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Wolflady

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Re: empty nest
« Reply #45 on: May 10, 2009, 05:11:37 PM »

When our lad was 6 weeks old the three of us were in a cafe in Leamington Spa and an old lady came to have a look at him in his pram. She said to me "the first step he takes is the first step away from you". I haven't forgotten that over the years and have let him go through each phase of his life if that makes any sense.
Now though he really is going to step away from us in a big way. I shall no doubt shed tears at his wedding and will aftewards when I am standing in his room. But in letting them go they come back. At least though he will come back to visit and as he isn't too far away we will see him. I am grateful for that.
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Jemima

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Re: empty nest
« Reply #46 on: May 12, 2009, 02:39:42 PM »

Hi Everyone

I haven't posted for a while but this topic struck a special chord with me.  I thought I had come to understand, master and almost live with the churning, yearning feelings of the so-called empty nest, but now that I face having to move out of the nest myself, all these feelings are coming back to haunt me.  I'm having such an internal struggle coming to terms with the inevitability of moving house that I was awake last night for what seemed like hours tossing and turning and debating with myself so loudly at 3 in the morning, that I woke the cat who scratched and yowled at the bedroom door till I had to eventually get up and let him outside.  I wasn't happy.

Anyway, in the space of 3 years my children have one by one flown the nest and I must admit that at times the feelings of loss have been excruciating. I'm sure most of you have experienced the yearnings that a fleeting glance at a photo can bring on! After my second son died my elder daughter moved out to go to uni in London, to be followed within a year by my elder son moving to Wales.  Considering I live in the north east of Scotland, visits are expensive and few and far between and I don't see them very often. When she was little, in her childish way my youngest always used to say that she would 'never, ever, ever' leave me, that she would 'never, ever, ever' have a boyfriend or get married and would live with me and look after me for ever and ever.  (Aw, ...........!) 

However, she eventually moved out to go to uni too and that left me really bereft and sore.  I'm not a clingy mum and hope I'm good at disguising how much I REALLY miss them as I don't want them to feel bogged down by guilt or obligation, but just to be happy and free to choose their own direction. I do admit though, to having each of their rooms permanently intact and on red alert to accommodate them at the drop of a hat even though I know their beds will probably remain unpopulated for 51 out of 52 weeks of the year!  Anyway, financial reality has recently begun to bite me so hard that after a year of indecision I've decided to take the plunge and move out of my home into a smaller house.  So you can imagine the huge practical and emotional upheaval looming ahead for me in the next few months as I downsize and sift through all our stuff and begin to work my way through the contents of the loft.  My sister has managed to keep her family close by and I must admit to feeling very envious of her.

nightingale xx

feel so much better having shared that, somehow ...................

Hello Nightingale,

I havent posted on here for a while either - but reading your post has made me realise that this board isnt just for taking advice and comfort, its for giving it back too.

one piece of advice i will give is dont throw everything away - take those little knick knacks they made you when they were young - dont fall into this trap of 'clearing the clutter' because i miss some of those things that i threw away - and you cant replace them - i could have found little bits of space for them if id wanted to = its my clutter - i liked it, but i threw loads away.....think twice and thrice before you get rid.....

theres a certain comfort from familiar belongings that you wont get with your new ikea furniture......take them with you - and cherish them

take it easy Nightingale - and keep us updated with your move.....

Jemima x
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nightingale

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Re: empty nest
« Reply #47 on: May 22, 2009, 09:16:48 PM »

Hi, Jemima

I felt a lump in my throat reading about your experience and will take your advice.  Although the first week in July has been pencilled in for the move I'm clinging to the fact that the swap's not 100% official because I haven't signed the dotted line yet.  How ridiculous is that?  I just feel rooted to the spot and overwhelmed by what I've to do and haven't done a thing in preparation - talk about ostrich syndrome.  I'm drifting along in a deliberate denial and really I've only got 6 weeks to go.  I know it's wrong to compare but how long did it take you to complete the task?

nightingale xx
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maureenl

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Re: empty nest
« Reply #48 on: June 02, 2009, 02:43:08 PM »

just reading all these posts gives me a reality check as thats where im going to be next year when my only son moves out to go to uni.....it makes me so sad just the thought of him in the big wide world....i am not looking forward to it but everyone tells me it will be the making of him (hes very shy and takes a while to make friends)..Hes talking about Bristol uni and in my eyes that is so far away from us as we stay in NE England....

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rebecca

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Re: empty nest
« Reply #49 on: June 02, 2009, 06:01:38 PM »

Maureenl - I'm sure he will be fine maybe this will give him a chance to come out of his shell a bit.
My daughter is hopefully going to Uni this Sept and my younger daughter next September so the house will be very quiet.

I plan to fill my time as much as I can and keep busy and have some 'me' time. After all I think we deserve it - before you know it he will be home when term breaks telling you all about it.

Rebecca 
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Micki

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Re: empty nest
« Reply #50 on: June 05, 2009, 08:34:17 PM »

I can relate to everyone's feeling here  :hug:

DS left home 2 years ago at the age of 19 having planned exactly what he wanted to do from the age of 14 so it was no surprise when he managed to follow his dream.  I remember helping him pack and being supportive, making all the right noises to encourage him and had vowed to myself I would NOT break down in front of him.
All was fine until he got into his car when I couldn't hold the tears back any longer  :'(
He is still living his dream, has done very well for himself and now lives on a boat down the south coast with his partner, an amazing girl.  They are sooo happy. 
Many a time they have turned up on the doorstep to see us and we have spent many a weekend with them down there.  At some point they may sail off to the caribbean.......... 8)

Aah well I thought, DD is still at home......  then last year she met a lovely fella  (so like DH  :o ), moved in with him within a fortnight and they are still blissfuly happy.  Mind you we still have two rooms full of her stuff  :o  She lives just 10 minutes away and we still have a very close relationship.  He is very supportive to her as she is doing a teaching degree.

So we are rattling here, the house seems far too big, trying to make the decision what to do.  Sell and downsize?  Sell and live on a boat (that one DOES appeal)   Stay a couple of years then decide? 
DH, like many others, is under threat of redundancy so the decision may be made for us in some ways.

I often used to say I would like a remote control I could press pause on and keep the kids as they were for longer when they were little.............

Micki x
 
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Wolflady

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Re: empty nest
« Reply #51 on: June 10, 2009, 08:02:04 PM »

We had the wedding on Saturday and it was a lovely lovely day. Everything went well and there weren't any hitches at all. :) It was good seeing old friends again too. Our son looked so handsome and his bride just beautiful. Then just before they left the reception his wife gave me a hug and said she would look after him. They stayed in a hotel overnight before going on to York for a week.
It really was a perfect day.........

So why was it that on Sunday afternoon I just couldn't stop crying at all. I felt as though something had died. It is so silly but that is the only way I can describe how I felt. I really couldn't stop the tears.

I do feel better about it now, well at the moment at least. I do miss him and it will be odd next week when they come home but don't come here.

Oh well. A new phase in our lives, for him and for hubby and me. I'm sure we will get used to it. :) 

Hubby and I are planning a big trip next year so son can look after the cat whilst we are away. :D



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juliamd

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Re: empty nest
« Reply #52 on: June 10, 2009, 08:34:50 PM »

Hi Wolflady
im so glad to hear the day went well, you must have felt very proud of him.
Dont worry about the tears they are normal, you will no doubt go through a sort of grieving process now. My son left home last year to live with his girlfriend,

although i was really pleased for him i still felt sad for me. It can be a very quiet house without them around isnt it? I also missed his friends poppping in.
You and hubby will now be finding the people and relationship you /were before your son came on the scene, we found having a big holiday to plan for last year helped us too.
good luck and take care
love poppinsxx
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Wolflady

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Re: empty nest
« Reply #53 on: June 12, 2009, 07:47:16 PM »

Thanks Poppins.

It is taking some getting used to I must admit not having him around. And when I got home from work he always had a coffee ready for me. I have missed that too. :)

I am looking forward to seeing them when they get back from York. One good thing is that we get on with his wifes' family. I should say daughter in-law shouldn't I but it sounds strange saying that after they have been going out for  over 6 years. :D

We did get a lovely thank you card from them. Son says we have brought him up well and says he hopes he brings his kids up as well as he has been. He added that there won't be so much washing and the biscuits will last longer now that he isn't at home. :D:D

Anyway ladies, thanks for listening. Have a good weekend all of you. :)
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rebecca

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Re: empty nest
« Reply #54 on: June 12, 2009, 09:55:20 PM »

Well done Wolflady  :tulips:

It sound like you have done a very good job at bringing up your son.  How lovely to have a coffee waiting for you (I knew I should have had boys !!!  - only joking ) when you get home and have such a compliment from your son.

Your post was very uplifting and flies a great flag for parenthood.  :) :) :)

Rebecca 



 
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Micki

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Re: empty nest
« Reply #55 on: June 13, 2009, 09:27:12 AM »

Hi Wolflady
I'm glad your Son's wedding day went well and it sounds as if you have a good relationship with your new daughter-in-law as well.

I agree with Poppins about going through a kind of 'grieving process' when they leave home.  I think it took me about two weeks to feel on an even keel again after DS left home and I didn't expect to feel this way as he had planned it so long and DD was still at home.  Funnily enough when DD left home after I didn't feel this way, but then she is ony ten minutes drive away and we still have a close relationship so I don't know if that made a difference to me.

For me it all heralded the point when years of saying 'when the kids leave home we will....' became a reality and we could do other things.  New adventures but at the same time I think I still yearn for the 'security' of those years when they were still at home  (hope that makes sense  ??? )

Micki x
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Wolflady

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Re: empty nest
« Reply #56 on: June 16, 2009, 07:48:40 PM »

Thank you ladies.  :)

They came back from York yesterday and called in to see us last night. They look so well and so happy. Makes us happy to see that. And yes, Micki, your comment about security does make sense.

So to all you ladies who are facing this now or in the near future I send you lots of  these :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:

In fact I send hugs to you all. :)
Take care everyone
-x-
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Jemima

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Re: empty nest
« Reply #57 on: December 03, 2009, 11:10:41 AM »

hi everyone,

sorry for my long absence - I had a very busy summer and its only now that work has slowed down that I have had time to sit back and relax, and what happens? I get ill  :( and my periods start playing up again.... :-\

My daughter has decided to go and live abroad in Canada for a year! I find myself just being able to cope with the changes we have already had and then one of them will chuck another spanner in the works!!

why do they do this to us poor mums eh? whats she getting for christmas?

A WEBCAM!!

Jemima xxx
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Oldteen

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Re: empty nest
« Reply #58 on: December 12, 2009, 04:11:30 PM »

This is a very thought-provoking thread.

I would say that, hard though it is to let our children go, would you still want them living with you in their forties?

I am an only child and was the centre of my parents' universe. My mother would often say, "You're all we've got in the world," which made me feel responsible for their happiness.

As I've said elsewhere, I'd had no boyfriends until I met my husband when I was 25. I loved my mother dearly but was shocked at how jealous she was. When I finally left home to marry him two years later she took it very hard, saying, "This is your home and there will always be room if you decide to come back to us."

Now my own children are 21 and 17, both still at home. The youngest will be independent soon I think, but the eldest is showing signs of expecting to be with us forever, which worries me greatly. He hasn't had a girlfriend yet, and always seems to be at home, exactly like me at his age. I married because I wanted to break away, as I felt I'd never do it on my own, and I don't want to see history repeating itself. I WISH he would find the gumption to get up and go. He hasn't been to uni, and started full time work at 19. Just like me!

From listening to others' advice about my problems that I've posted here,  my eyes have been opened and it has occurred to me that one of the things that has put a gulf between myself and my husband is the kids! In the early years they took all my attention, and we made the huge mistake of putting our lives on hold for them, so that we NEVER and I mean NEVER went anywhere without them. Evenings out were a thing of the past. We never needed babysitters as we were always at home.

Now those days of needing babysitters are long gone, but we've got out of the habit of going out together, and my husband never wants to, not with me anyway. He'd rather go out with our son, and they are more like friends than father and son, which again worries me as my son has only one friend his own age.
It's not his fault, but I've realised that my son gets far more attention from my husband than I do.

So I think it would be good for him to leave, and I need to get my husband back. We recently spent our first holiday together without the kids since they were born, and we almost started to become a couple again. Almost. Now we're back to normal and my son gets all my husband's attention again.

 I hope it doesn't sound as if I'm jealous of my own son. I just don't like the way things are heading.

So welcome the empty nest! I can't wait for it to happen.

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Taz2

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Re: empty nest
« Reply #59 on: December 12, 2009, 07:55:36 PM »

I think the  main problem nowadays is the sheer cost of moving out. Both my eldest and middle (central) son rent flats. The eldest one pays almost £900 a month for his and the middle one shares with three others - they each pay £400 a month. His rent includes bills but the eldest one has to find all bills as well as his rent. They don't have a hope of getting a mortgage although, to be honest, neither of them want to be tied to one.

The youngest one still lives at home. He is 21 and has never worked - that's another story - but he is more than happy to stay here. It seems as if amongst my sons' friends the average moving out time (sometimes with a three year Uni space) is around 29.

Taz x
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