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[cutey1]

It is 1.09am and I am still wide awake - don't even feel tired 

Kept waking last night, at 3.25am was so irritated then must have fallen asleep after what felt like hours, then woke at 8am - felt like a zombie all day 

[Farmer]

Hi Robyn and Morwenna.

I prefer to take the natural route, so take natural progesterone cream.  It helped with hot flushes initially, but they are back with a vengeance, although in saying that when they did lessen, I didn't use so much cream.  Im trying to use it regularly at the moment, in the hope it will stop the flushes again.  If this fails, I think I will look into the HRT.  I can't carry on having very little sleep.  I work full time, have had a relationship break up and Im just not coping very well some days because Im just so tired.

[JulesJ]

I had a problem a few years ago with falling asleep, then waking about 2 or 3am and being unable to get back to sleep. Very depressed at the time.
I have an alarm clock/radio with a timer on the radio, and found that if I put the radio on a nice mellow station, very quietly for 30mins, that did the trick.

No longer depressed, but still use that trick to get me off to sleep. Works like a charm for me. 

[Astolat]

Seems like we're all going through the same thing. I can't get off to sleep at all tonight but I know getting ratty about it is only going to make it worse. Usually sleep soundly for two hours and then I'm awake for two hours...usually drop off to sleep around 4am and have three hours before I need to get up again.

My Dr is slow to recommend anything 

Hope we all get a good nights sleep soon - feel 100% better after seven hours sleep! Sweet (and flush free) dreams everyone!

[janine]

  i take menopace night and it helps! have slept so much better since taking these and the night sweats have all but gone!  hope this helps x

[Charity]

Hi

I'm new to the forum and I'm still finding my way around. It's so good to know that I'm not alone.
I've been struggling with poor sleep for about 4years and I really want to keep things as natural as possible.

Can anyone clarify what 'natural progesterone' is ....is it plant? ...animal? .....and how natural is natural. I'm 45 and with two older sisters that can't help me as they still have regular periods and a mum who had a full hysterectomy at 44.

Any help would be great.

[silverlady]

Charity this might help

http://www.npis.info/howtoobtain.htm

silverlady x

[Charity]

Thank you Ladies

Those sites were really helpful. I'm going to consider buying the natural progesterone if I find that I'm not coping. At present I'm having warm flushes and I'm coping with the disturbed sleep.

  :)x

[Robyn]

The problem though Charity is that if you are suffering from insomnia and hot flushes it's the oestradiol (oestrogen) you actually need. The progesterone is really only needed to protect the uterus.

[nelliedee]

I have started walking 2 miles a day and I think it is helping me sleep. If I miss a day or 2 of walking then I dont sleep very well at all. x

[pixie]

Hot flushes and sleep problems have increased this week. I think it has been very warm weather, which seems to make it worse, but everyone at work saying its cold! . Cat napping most of the last night, covers off and covers on. Cotton sheet, thin quilt. Boiling one minute, freezing the next!  Palpatations. Alert in the day surprisingly!  Haven't drunk any coffee this morning, only 2 cups of tea at breakfast.  Will see if it makes any difference. 

[Anne B]

Pixie
Oh I sympathise. I am exactly the same except I feel so tired during the day. Are you on HRT?
Anne B

[pixie]

Hi Anne,  No I'm not on HRT, because of maternal history of breast cancer.  To be honest, the main problem I have is with sleeping.  Last night was dreadful again - went to sleep at 12.15, awake again at 1.30am, 2.30am, 4am and have been awake since about 4.30am.  I was exhausted last evening, but felt wide awake during the night - difficult to explain.  I don't sweat a lot, like some of the poor ladies, on here, but just feel very hot and uncomfortable, then the shivering wakes me up. The hot flushes seem to increase at this time of year. Now I have got up and will probably have another headache later on. Will get up and go for a walk as it is at least nice and sunny this morning. I think I might have a sleep disorder.  A lot of it is due to life stress in general!  I am due to go on holiday in a week, so will see if it improves then.  I hope you are feeling a bit better? XX I think I will go and get a clock radio, as someone suggested and some magi cool spray. I think the lack of sleep makes you feel low in mood, although luckily not depressed.  I try not to worry about it because maybe I don't need so much sleep now I am getting on!  I am hoping to make up for it in the winter, which is what happened last year.

[pixie]

Went back to sleep for another 2 and a half hours and had a good deep sleep!  Feel better but could've carried on!  I wonder if it would make a difference to work at night and sleep in the day.

[Anne B]

Pixie
Glad you got a wee snooze. I did sleep a bit last night but woke up very early boiling hot. Still hot and a bit woozy and feel very lethargic. I have to keep a bottle of water at my bedside as I am so thirsty at night.
Hope you have a better night tonight.
Anne B