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[Taz2]

Hi SuzieQ - I'm so glad that you are sleeping so well now. I'm not sure that it is the HRT though - I feel that it may have something to do with it but the main reason could well be the Amitryp as it is given to promote sleep and when I took it the effect, after a week or so, was absolutely wonderful! For the first time in years I would put my head on the pillow, close my eyes and WOW it was morning! I would still be taking it now if it hadnt had bad side effects for me.

Happy sleeping.

Love Taz x

[cathannabel]

I agree, I do feel the ami has had a dramatic effect for me.  My husband has noticed - its always him now that wakes up first on a Sunday and has to go and get a cup of tea!  I doze off more easily, wake in the night hardly at all, and feel kind of heavy and drifty when I used to be restless and twitchy!  I'm not on HRT so can't compare, but the ami has been miraculous and no side effects so far...
So who knows SuzieQ but whatever it is, its working and that's great, I'm really pleased for you!
love
Cath
xx

[suzieQ]

Hi Taz and Cath
Well its interesting - Ive been on the ami for 2 months now and it has never made any difference in all that time - I never even felt sleepy from it. I was still sleeping very poorly - but I know it made a difference for Cath from day 1. I still think its the HRT which has changed my sleep pattern - anyway I will stop the ami soon, but not the hRT so that will be the decider! If it does affect my sleep stopping it I will go back to it! Anyway still Loving bedtime and my lovely sleep! Love Sue

[suzieQ]

Hello everyone! Just an update re the 3 posts above this one. Its now early July - been off the ami for a few weeks, but still on HRT only. Still sleeping really well in every situation ( even on hols in new beds) so I'm sure it ha sbeen that thats helped so much. I was concerned anxiety may re-appear when I stopped the ami, but I cut it down slowly and have had no ill effects at all. I think the anxiety all came from not sleeping. I am back to my old self with a zest for life again, sense of humour restored and lots of energy. A few aches is about all I have to put up with - yippee! Love sue

[Taz2]

Hi Sue - thanks you for an uplifting and helpful post 

I am so pleased that you are sleeping well, even though you are off the Ami, and this bears out what I have felt since my hot sweats stopped due to the build up to a period (see Hot flushes stopped and life began again thread) With the stopping of the sweats and flushes came better sleeping and a total end to anxiety attacks which, though I had still managed to go places, meant that I spent the whole time just wishing that it was time to go home again. 

I am hoping that should things return to that same dreadful level of not really living just getting through each day - then HRT may help me too. Will have to do a bit of  with the GP first but it will be worth it to be "me" again.

I am so pleased for you Sue   

Love Taz x 

[Libby Babe]

On the subject of sleeping, or not sleeping as the case may be, I thought I would tell you all that I slept last night from 11 last night until 6.30 this morning and I only woke up, very briefly, at 5.30, needed to pee but didn't get up as I was too tired, went straight back to sleep again until 6.30.  I can't remember when I last slept so well and I have no idea why I did last night.  I had 3 glasses of wine before I went to bed, (which obviously I don't do every night!) and that was me until this morning.

I have been sleeping so badly this last week or so that I have started dreading going to bed because I have been so hot and so uncomfortable so this has come as a complete surprise and a very welcome change.

This must have done me good because I have just spent all morning giving my daughters room a good tidy up and a clean, something I haven't had the energy to do for weeks now.  No doubt I will regret it later but what the heck - it's a job that really needed doing.

Off to have some lunch now - I am starving!

Libby
x

[suzieQ]

Dear Libby and Taz - thanks for posting back. Yes I think the sleeping thing is a massive issue for us and has a terrible effect on health, well being and positive outlook. So glad for you  that you have had a good night Libby - it shows you can sleep! Maybe the wine helped you relax! Taz I'm really glad your flushes and sweats have stopped - it does make such a difference to the night . I am convinced that this new hRT I am on is what has made the difference as i tried absolutely everything from lavender to hynotherapy before and nothing worked. I saw my GP yeasterday fora check up and my BP was text book, weight is coming off again ( after a period of stalling in the first 2 months on the hRt) We have decoded that after another 3 months I will try to cut down again and maybe go back to the very low patches which worked fine before i stopped altogether and triggered this bout of insomnia.
You girls and others on this site have been such a support - its been a real Godsend. I told my GP to recommend it to all her meno patients! Hang in there girls - sounds like you are doing great! Love Sue

[Alison62]

I cut out all caffeine but still had sleepless nights with the sweats and took me ages to get back to sleep. Then I started taking kalms and they are so good found I can get a better sleep still waken up about once but get more sleep now.

[suzieQ]

Hi Alison - nice to "meet" you! I am so glad you have found something which works for you. A lot of women have a good effect with Kalms - both at night and to help with anxiety during the day. Its so important to get good sleep - you can cope so much better then. I personally think the loss of sleep is one of the worst meno symptoms - and when it becomes full blown insomnia ( as it sometimes does) it is crippling. So great! its really good to hear you are geeting a better night again. Love Sue

[Scorpio]

Recently I have been coping in the day with hardly any flushing problems, but at night time I have had hot flushes, well more like dripping. I wear cotton material in bed and  have a sheet under a light duvet, so I can just have the sheet over me if need be. Most nights I have thrown the covers off (hubs has his side tucked up to his ears) Lately I have tossed and turned and even sprayed myself with the magicool spray in the middle of the night to cool down. During the day I have no energy and often fall asleep in the evening. Oh to have a good sound sleep, would be bliss! Some evenings I have a glass of wine which helps me to unwind and does help me to sleep.

[sarah bird]

Hi Scorpio, sorry to hear you are not sleeping too well   just wanted to pass on a little tip I've mentioned before...

If you sleep on a great big soft towel it really helps to soak up all that dripping . You will still get hot but I found actually it was more the feeling of being SOOO wet that woke me and also stopped me from getting back to sleep. You can use the towel to mop yourself with and then of its too soggy just get rid of it to reveal a nice dry sheet underneath     If this happens a few times just keep a spare towel by the bed to replace the soggy one .

Sorry if this sounds a bit daft but I found it helped  when I had the most horrendous night sweats . Thankfully they do seem to have become less troublesome lately so thats great ..still have the b****y hot flushes during the day though 

love ,a rather steamy Sarah b x

[Scorpio]

Hi Sarah Bird, Thank you for your tip I will try that. Last night wasn't so bad, only woke up once! Someone else mentioned Kalms, I have tried those in the day before now when I had a very stressful job, so maybe that might help too. Will definately try the towel though. Thank you.
Scorpio

[Libby Babe]

Just wanted to mention that while I was away on holiday (14 nights in total) I only had 3 good nights' sleep - I slept much worse than I do at home.  This is my first year in the caravan with the hot flushes and it was not pleasant I can tell you!  It is not something I want to do again for a while - I really need some sleep.
Libby

[casper]

Hi Everyone,
On the subject of poor sleeping does anyone have weird dreams when they do finally get off to sleep? I mention this because I used to have no problem sleeping but in the last year or so I am finding it easy to get off to sleep (go to bed about 12ish) but then wake up around 1.30 drop off again about an hour later, untill about 4am and this pattern continues untill I  get up around 8.30 am. A week before I start a period I have great difficulty sleeping at all (this usually gives me a clue to WHEN my now usually erratic periods are going to start!) as I get night sweats
The dreams I am now getting can be really odd those darn ones you remember vividly when you wake up and forget 10 minutes later Mind you I do remember the one I had this morning (that prompted me to write this) because I was dreaming I was pregnant again and woke up with the distinct feeling of a baby kicking (prehaps it was just wind!) but I really dont want to sleep tonight and dream that one again, gets a bit of a worry when you are nearing 48 and can only just about cope with the grandchildren

[suzieQ]

Hi everyone _thought i'd better put a post on here too as this is the correct part of the forum for these things really! I have been experienceing a few sleep problems again even though I've been fine for months and my HRT seems to be working in every other way. Just this past week or 2 really its gone a bit haywire, but nothing like as bad as last time when I hardly slept at all. As some-one once said it was "like some-one switched my sleep button off" This past week or so its just great difficulty falling asleep much before 2 or 3 but then sleeping ok til morning. Last night I did have to take half a sleeping tablet at 1.30 am as I was so exhausted. I ve been having some wierd dreams too. I was wondering if it was caused initially by chocolate - by reflexology which sometimes sensitises me - by overwork and stress but now I wonder if it could be a hormone fluctuation of my own ( despite the HRT) which would equate to a pre-menstrual  state if I wasn't on a continuous no-bleed HRT.  If anyone has any suggestions I would be interested. I decided last night to start taking my HRT at night instead of in teh morning to see if that helps. Love Sue