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Re: Medicine not helping my panic attacks right now
« Reply #45 on: December 30, 2019, 02:13:57 PM »

Thanks CLKD :) So you don't think I'm crazy?! Could it still be hormonal even with the life events going on? I feel like I'm oversensitive to everything at the moment.
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Re: Medicine not helping my panic attacks right now
« Reply #46 on: December 30, 2019, 03:55:23 PM »

No one is really crazy.  Upset.  Muddled.  Slightly un-stable due to Hormones.  Never crazy.  Dr Kathleen Daulton did a lot of research on Premensrual Syndrome - which is cyclical. Caused by the various hormones that affect women monthly.

There are specific mental disorders which can be diagnosed by a professional and usually treated successfully.

Your symptoms are hormonal affected by The Change - does what it says on the tin.

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Re: Medicine not helping my panic attacks right now
« Reply #47 on: December 31, 2019, 09:24:09 AM »

Thanks so much Birdy and CLKD.
I'm seeing my consultant on Friday but it's New Year's Eve and I'm feeling so depressed and in a constant state of panic, which even lasted into the evening last night when I usually feel better.
I took a low dose of diazepam yesterday but it didn't work, only the lorazepam did but I've run out.
I don't want to have to take anything but I'm feeling desperate at the moment.
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Re: Medicine not helping my panic attacks right now
« Reply #48 on: December 31, 2019, 09:42:15 AM »

How much Valium?  Your GP Surgery should be open for advice this morning.  I was on 10mg Valium 3 times a day for a while, didn't get addicted 'cos it did what it said on the packet: gave me breathing space  ;)
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Re: Medicine not helping my panic attacks right now
« Reply #49 on: December 31, 2019, 09:48:40 AM »

I took 1mg Valium and it made me feel worse.
I was taking 0.5 lorazepam last month and that took the edge off, sometimes 1mg, sometimes 0.25, and didn't need it every day, but the GP won't prescribe it. I don't believe I've gotten addicted before but now I'm scared I'm having withdrawal.
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« Reply #50 on: December 31, 2019, 10:14:22 AM »

Thank you Clio :) I'm seeing my gynaecologist on Friday so I'm hoping he might at least be able to explain some of the symptoms.
I defo find anything that calms me down gives me some breathing space so I can get other things under control. Last time I was unwell like this I took lorazepam pretty much every day for five months and when I levelled out on the HRT I was able to stop with no issues.
How are you doing? Sorry to be such a downer on New Year's Eve.
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Re: Medicine not helping my panic attacks right now
« Reply #51 on: December 31, 2019, 02:45:01 PM »

A Gynaecologist might know less than a GP  >:( so do take that list!

Valium made me feel weird occasionally.  Has your GP told you he/she won't prescribe more?  By your records he/she should be able to see that you are not mis-using it.  If he/she refuses, do what I did: "Hold my hand then as I walk to the edge of a tall building".  Worked  ;)
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Re: Medicine not helping my panic attacks right now
« Reply #52 on: December 31, 2019, 02:57:01 PM »

Thank you ladies.
I'm very lucky to have all this support, and was lucky today when I managed to get an emergency appointment with the psychiatrist who put me on the fluoxetine. She's given me some more lorazepam for the short term and trazodone for sleep. I burst into tears when I saw her and she was so lovely.
It's become unbearable since the 27th and I knew I needed help, put if off long enough.
She said I need to focus on treating my mental health rather than my PCOS and PMS.
Clio51, I'm at the point where I think if something helps, take it. You're not a downer!! I think I need to accept that what I have isn't all hormonal. And no problem, I'm 33, so yeah still having periods.
CLKD, I'm not so sure about diazepam either :/ Makes me a bit zombie like, whereas I don't find lorazepam anywhere near as bad and can still feel like ‘me' after I've taken it.
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Re: Medicine not helping my panic attacks right now
« Reply #53 on: December 31, 2019, 03:00:42 PM »

What's the dose she has given you.  Mine is 1 I think  :-\.  I like it when it knocks me out, knowing that when I wake after 3-4 hours, I will feel OK again.

Well done on taking action!  What's PCOS ?  PMS can be eased by eating regularly.  Every 3 hours.  Night and day!  When I had a puppy and she needed out at 3.00 a.m. she soon learned that there would be a biscuit on my side of the bed  ;D
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Re: Medicine not helping my panic attacks right now
« Reply #54 on: December 31, 2019, 03:40:12 PM »

Hey Redlocks - only just picked this up, haven't been on the forum for about a week!  All I can say is about my experience.  I was on AD's for over 40 years problems with anxiety and depression and supposedly fibromyalgia or ME (yuppie flu as they used to call it in the late 80's!)  However, since going on my meno journey and learning loads and trying loads I came to the conclusion that I had underlying hormonal problems all along since a teenager which just made life plus anxiety (difficult life) much much worse.
So you are not  mad! regarding this grieving, worrying ,irrational thoughts about friends and family. Here's what happened to me.
When I was at my worst I could not leave the house or talk to anyone on the phone, nor did I want my family to leave the house! and I was only sleeping about 2 hours a night.
I just thought they were going to die or something terrible was going to happen when they stepped outside the door and regarding the phone I thought I would make a mistake in my job or forget something important in our day to day living which would render us bankrupt or homeless or result in some other irrational catastrophe.  I catastrophised 24/7 on the days I could actually get out of bed!  I also had the urge to physically run away - which I did, usually in the middle of the night! terrifying my husband and family.  I got picked up by the police one night because they were worried about me wandering around and then I tried to pick a fight with them!  I had it in my head that I was walking to the airport to visit my one and only friend in England! This kept on for just over a year and to be honest nearly cost me my life!  Suppose you would call it a psychotic episode or a breakdown whatever...??? but no amount of counselling or anything else fixed it.  I reckon looking back that if our health service had been any good I probably could have ended up being sectioned...UNTILL....my hrt came right 18 months ago...now all gone!!! absolutely all gone!! even a lot of the stuff from 30 years!  Sounds impossible but no...that's how it was for me.  I wish it could be for everyone else. xxx  but what it has done is give me hope for everyone else. xx

Its a question we hormonal women ask ourselves over and over...is it all hormones making an underlying issue worse or are the hormones irrelevant, we need to fix the underlying issue?? In my case, it was the hormones all along but no one clocked it!

If 30 years ago there had been proper credence given to endocrine and hormonal issues (In fairness I have to say that it didn't happen because the world had not moved on to the position it is today because it is only just becoming an area of proper research now but...) my life would have been very different instead I was just drugged up to the eyeballs and put down as a clinically depressed whinger, with varying mental health issues who "had to learn to live with it"!

I am not fixed though entirely because I believe all those drugs and the past issues are still in my head and cloud my thinking somewhat...well 30 years of that must do and it is only coming up 2 years that the change occurred, but I can now deal with stressful situations and have only mild panic episodes that barely register and last less than 15 minutes.  I am slowly managing to dump the attitudes of the past I had no control over. I don't have psychotic out of control thoughts and a proper course of AD's hasn't passed my lips in 4 years (I got given a course when one of my sis-in-laws died..not the recent one!) but only manage 3 days before I went "not taking these again"!  The underlying thoughts and issues are slowing changing because I am physically and mentally more able to cope.  And it is nothing I have had control over that has changed, just the "right" hrt...and don't let anyone tell you they all work the same and should have the same effects on every women because they don't!!!

Clio51- I too thought "it was my personality" - in the last 2 years turns out it "wasn't" and am so very different now than I was for most of my life and my life hasn't changed but I am convinced these imbalances change our thinking and take it totally outside of our control.

None of us are mad, nor "is it just our personality"...what it is something the so called experts are not very expert on putting their fingers on and something that goes on in our heads controlled by the chemicals in our bodies!!!  The impact it has on lives is beyond immense and I think womens health should be taken far more seriously for future generations so others don't have to "learn to live with it"!
I don't know that any of this helps either of you but it might put a different perspective on things.  Much love xx
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Re: Medicine not helping my panic attacks right now
« Reply #55 on: December 31, 2019, 04:26:28 PM »

Hello lovely ladies,
CLKD, she prescribed me 1mg lorazepam tablets to take for a couple of weeks (she knows I've been taking them on and off over the last month).
PCOS is polycystic ovary syndrome - some of my symptoms include night sweats before periods (HRT sorted those), excess hair on chin and upper lip (still there sigh) and it's also been linked to anxiety and depression, but there isn't enough research.
And I reckon puppies are the best medicine  :-* She sounded like a cheeky little thing! :)
Ladybt28, I will reply to you properly in a bit, but your post moved me to tears. I'm so touched that you shared your story with me and so glad you found something that works for you. Today I'd been feeling that I will never get better, and wondering what the point of anything is (which just makes me feel guilty as I'm not usually like that), and your words made me think twice. Thank you so much.
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« Reply #56 on: December 31, 2019, 04:45:34 PM »

Aw.. Redlocks...I lived with that feeling of "it will never get better...I will never get better" for nearly half my life so I know exactly how you are today.  It's awful and we try so hard in ourselves to fix it and its beyond exhausting  :'(  I reckon it's pretty much outside our control but that doesn't seem to stop us.  We don't get proper help either).  There is not enough research on any of these women's health problems and yet think how many women there are in the world???  I never ever thought I could get "fixed" and I just wish I could find a way to make it work for others who are suffering and it hasn't come right because it is like living in a never ending nightmare and if blokes could live it then I'm pretty sure this hormone thing would have been fixed years ago!

Puppies are a good medicine....I have 2 (not puppies anymore but you know what I mean!) and as for my story...if I were to go from age 14 when it seems to have started, it makes pretty horrific reading and some of it is sounds quite outlandish but I am not afraid to share any of it because I felt so alone before I came here to the forum and I think we cut ourselves off from the world and hide our torment because we feel we will be judged or others just cant understand and think we "should apply some positive thinking" (or some such other rubbish!), so I don't want anyone to experience that desolate hopeless loneliness where everything feels so hopeless so am happy to share and answer anyone on anything.

You just have to keep going...because the alternative isn't an answer either...and it is just possible that the answer is the next thing you try!! xxx
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Re: Medicine not helping my panic attacks right now
« Reply #57 on: December 31, 2019, 06:06:16 PM »

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Re: Medicine not helping my panic attacks right now
« Reply #58 on: December 31, 2019, 07:18:15 PM »

clio?  62 shouldn't rule out HRT if it is carefully managed.  Maybe look at the various Consultants, sorry name escapes me ? Louise ?

Don't wait until anxiety takes over, take the lorazepam sooner rather than later to give your brain some relief.  Waiting increases the 'should I/not' take it!
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« Reply #59 on: December 31, 2019, 07:23:04 PM »

Clio - being too old for hrt or having to stop it at a certain age is old fashioned thinking - as CLKD says there are now progressive and up to date specialist meno consultants who think outside the box and don't go along the lines of the old fashioned constraints.  Louise Newsom is the one CLKD can't remember but there are plenty of others out there.  You would have have trouble with GP's because most of them don't have a clue and gynae consultants because it is not their field.  You would need someone considered cutting edge but don't think its too late for you.
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