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[bear]

Ah thank you 😚xxx

You're welcome, dear. 

BeaR.

[bear]

Butterfly22 – well done – I know you've had problems with HRT over the years  so I hope this gives you some stability.

You could check the links before you post that I'm giving old information. )

BeaR.

Woah bear hold your horses!  You will see from my post I was specifically referring to “availability and resumption of supply” which as far as I know has not changed recently re Janssen and Evorel.  While of course it is illuminating to read the causes of manufacturing delays, for most of us who use and depend on HRT the most important issue is whether our favoured product is still being made, when supplies will run out from the manufacturer and when they anticipate it will be available again (in UK of course).

We're all running around like headless chickens from pharm to pharm (!) chasing our patches and tablets!

Hurdity x

Who is this bear you speak of Hurdity?
Is it the BeaR who has been posting links regarding HRT availability? If so it might be useful to spell the posters name correctly. I find accuracy helps in such matters   

Hi Hasty,

Aww, thank you, that's OK, I'm just joking   

BeaR.

[Hurdity]

Haha - can't cope with too many boxes within boxes.

Who is this bear you speak of Hurdity?
Is it the BeaR who has been posting links regarding HRT availability? If so it might be useful to spell the posters name correctly. I find accuracy helps in such matters   

Hasty - funnily enough I can spell "bear". This is a forum you know - capitalisation or not is usually the last thing on people's minds! ...and bear - I really don't mind one iota how you put my name - capitals or not - it's often even spelt incorrectly but hey...whoi cares as long as it remains polite?!

It's World Menopause Day girls 

Hope we all have enough HRT to keep sane.....

Hurdity x

[bear]

Hi girls,

No more hoarding from now on. Yay. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/parallel-export-and-hoarding-of-restricted-medicines

BeaR.

[KiltedCupid]

Haha - can't cope with too many boxes within boxes.

Who is this bear you speak of Hurdity?
Is it the BeaR who has been posting links regarding HRT availability? If so it might be useful to spell the posters name correctly. I find accuracy helps in such matters   

Hasty - funnily enough I can spell "bear". This is a forum you know - capitalisation or not is usually the last thing on people's minds! ...and bear - I really don't mind one iota how you put my name - capitals or not - it's often even spelt incorrectly but hey...whoi cares as long as it remains polite?!

It's World Menopause Day girls 

Hope we all have enough HRT to keep sane.....

Hurdity x

At a time when emotions are running high with both our political and medical certainties up in the air, sometimes ‘sorry, my mistake' goes a long way.

I'm not particularly bothered how someone spells my name, but for those who are, a little respect goes a long way and contributes to a more harmonious environment. It's just courtesy.

[Rosebush]

Ladies so pleased some of you are getting your HRT..

[jaycee]

Hi BeaR, Does this mean HRT supplies will be available again soon?

[Hurdity]

Jaycee – it just means that there won't be stockpiling of HRT and wholesalers being able to re-sell in other EU countries at a profit. This is the news that Wrensong reported on this thread a couple of weeks ago and to which the BMS responded.

Sorry if this has already been posted elsewhere - have not been on the forum for a week or more.  Interested to find the following BMS statement on government intervention wrt HRT supply shortages:-

https://thebms.org.uk/2019/10/bms-response-to-the-governments-new-measures-to-tackle-hrt-shortages/

Hope everyone is OK & managing to get theirs.
Wx

However unfortunately  it won't alter the situation regarding any manufacturing issues so where this is an issue like we have known with Femseven for some time, and with Evorel etc as per the BMS info or the manufacturers direct – if production of a particular type of HRT stops or slows down (for whatever reason) then once the HRT left in the supply chain has been used up then presumably no more until the date given by the manufacturer ( as I understand it!). It may help though with where there appears to be uneven availability and to slow down the rapid rundown of supplies due to export - hopefully! However as women switch products due to unavailability of one then this can have knock on effects on other brands....so they may become scarce too

Thanks Rosebush - some of us have had to switch brands (eg of patch or tablet) and I feel for the women who cannot find a suitable alternative or for whom the alternative does not suit them, as we enter an enforced period of experimentation with our HRT!

At a time when emotions are running high with both our political and medical certainties up in the air, sometimes ‘sorry, my mistake' goes a long way.

I'm not particularly bothered how someone spells my name, but for those who are, a little respect goes a long way and contributes to a more harmonious environment. It's just courtesy.

For goodness sake Kilted Cupid lay off me with all of that – and hasty and bear with your earlier comments  (especially on World Menopause Day FGS!) - so unnecessary.

Have a good weekend girls

Hurdity x

[bear]

Hi BeaR, Does this mean HRT supplies will be available again soon?

Hi jaycee,

I hope so, but it's really hard to know. If the wholesalers have been stockpiling (not just for profit, but because they were told to do so before Brexit), it's possible that some products might become available again. Unfortunately, there are manufacturing issues that won't be affected by this measure, so it won't be the end of shortages.

BeaR.

[bear]

Jaycee – it just means that there won't be stockpiling of HRT and wholesalers being able to re-sell in other EU countries at a profit. This is the news that Wrensong reported on this thread a couple of weeks ago and to which the BMS responded.

Sorry if this has already been posted elsewhere - have not been on the forum for a week or more.  Interested to find the following BMS statement on government intervention wrt HRT supply shortages:-

https://thebms.org.uk/2019/10/bms-response-to-the-governments-new-measures-to-tackle-hrt-shortages/

Hope everyone is OK & managing to get theirs.
Wx

However unfortunately  it won't alter the situation regarding any manufacturing issues so where this is an issue like we have known with Femseven for some time, and with Evorel etc as per the BMS info or the manufacturers direct – if production of a particular type of HRT stops or slows down (for whatever reason) then once the HRT left in the supply chain has been used up then presumably no more until the date given by the manufacturer ( as I understand it!). It may help though with where there appears to be uneven availability and to slow down the rapid rundown of supplies due to export - hopefully! However as women switch products due to unavailability of one then this can have knock on effects on other brands....so they may become scarce too

Thanks Rosebush - some of us have had to switch brands (eg of patch or tablet) and I feel for the women who cannot find a suitable alternative or for whom the alternative does not suit them, as we enter an enforced period of experimentation with our HRT!

At a time when emotions are running high with both our political and medical certainties up in the air, sometimes ‘sorry, my mistake' goes a long way.

I'm not particularly bothered how someone spells my name, but for those who are, a little respect goes a long way and contributes to a more harmonious environment. It's just courtesy.

For goodness sake Kilted Cupid lay off me with all of that – and hasty and bear with your earlier comments  (especially on World Menopause Day FGS!) - so unnecessary.

Have a good weekend girls

Hurdity x

Hi hurdity,

The BMS link you have quoted has been published on 3rd Oct and the link I have posted https://www.gov.uk/guidance/parallel-export-and-hoarding-of-restricted-medicines has been published on 7th Oct, last updated on 8th Oct. You clearly didn't read it. It's not just about parallel export, it's about parallel export and hoarding of restricted medicines.

What comments on World Menopause Day? I have no idea what you're talking about 

BeaR.

[jaycee]

Thank you,i realise shortages due to manufacturing problems will still carry on, but hopefully at least some others may be available  again soon 

[KiltedCupid]

I suppose it's feasible that, given the withdrawal of fem7 for re-formulation, other patch manufacturers, particularly Evorel were swamped with demand and somewhere in the supply chain they decided to level this out. The domino effect would continue with other E only patch manufacturers. Don't know enough about supply chains but one large player pulling out would have a huge impact on the others. Can't understand why they weren't more prepared though? We're talking very big pharma here, this can't be a new thing and so I suspect Brexit stockpiling plays a part to some degree.

Hopefully, the initial high demand is now accounted for and some manufacturers have adapted to that demand, thereby evening out  the supply overall.

[flossie fiddler]

Well, my Special Delivery next day by 1pm written prescription that was posted to Oxford Pharmacy on Thursday still hasn't been delivered to them according to the tracking details. And I should have had a new patch on today. My own fault for not realising how the shortage would affect me.

But looks like I'm going to have to go at least a week before getting my HRT delivered as they don't order it in until they receive my prescription.

Hubby and dog say they're going to camp out in the cupboard under the stairs.

Happy Menopause Week, or whatever it is 😭😭

[KiltedCupid]

Flossie Fiddler - my deliveries from oxford usually take 3 days. I've stopped all hrt in the past and am usually fine for a week or 2 but I know it's frightening. Hopefully Monday's postie will bring good news.

[flossie fiddler]

Flossie Fiddler - my deliveries from oxford usually take 3 days. I've stopped all hrt in the past and am usually fine for a week or 2 but I know it's frightening. Hopefully Monday's postie will bring good news.

Thanks, hopefully I'll be OK until they arrive, and I'm hoping that by the time in need my next batch in 6 m months time, the supply chain will be fixed. Here's hoping.