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[NaturalMystic]

Third night of maybe 4 hours sleep. Convinced I've got Parkinsons or something I feel so shaky internally and legs twitching. Icing on the cake was when hubbie told me at 5am to pull myself together, stop wallowing in self pity and ruining Christmas for the kids...no pressure then. I know he is right in some ways though. Just got kids concert, packing, 8 hours drive and night in Premier Inn to survive now. Any tips ladies? I feel scared, wretched and pathetic.

Well thats easy to do isn't it hubby 😒

[AgathaC]

Roseneath - I'm with you today xx
Are you away all over Christmas?

[Kb21]

That lack of understanding is a real help... 

We're going away today to my mums and I've been in a panic since 3 am about getting everything ready to go. No idea why. I just annoy myself these days

[Ladybt28]

NaturalMystic - you don't have Parkinsons - you are a menopausal women and your husband is NOT RIGHT!  I use natural Valarian for calming (Kalms has valarian root in it) and also for sleep Roseneath - you can get it straight off the shelf in Boots, so you could get your hands on some immediately.  I have tried other stuff for calming and it makes me feel hungover.  Should take the edge off NaturalMystic and Kb21.  (by the way Kb your may feel wretched and pathetic but you most certainly are not).                                                         

I also use Melatonin for sleeping which you get off the internet and I know of other ladies who comment on here use it too for poor sleep.  It is the chemical which your body produces naturally which makes you react to light that makes you sleep so also a natural remedy.  Might be worth a go Roseneath there is absolutely no harm in it at all and that also doesn't make you feel hungover.  I tend to use it when I am in a real state or have not been sleeping over 2 or 3 days.  You can get 1mg tablets right up to 10mg tablets.  I buy the 1mg and take as I need - if I'm bad I take 3mg and off I go into dreamland!  Just dont drink loads of alcohol with them or you will all sleep through Christmas!

Dont beat yourselves up about taking stuff, or thinking we "should be able to do this"! I know loads of us feel like that - if it makes you feel better (which it will) just do what you have to do - to be honest I viewed it like "hey I can't feel worse and I could feel better".  Sleep deprivation just ramps up everything else.

Hope your trips turn out ok 

[CLKD]

If we could pull ourselves together we wouldn't need them, GPs, Hospitals etc. 

I would have given him a Very Hard  - isn't he able to give the kids a 'good' Christmas without relying on anyone else Roseneath?  I would be downing tools!

I spent years trying to please others and apart from Boxing Day I now tell everyone that DH is the most important person in my Life.  But because DH is so good to me  I try to tolerate his family for a few days during the year  and at least we don't have to stay over night with any of them ......

..... and breath.  Find a raindrop on a leaf or listen to a bird singing: something that you can totally immerse yourself in 

[Kb21]

I brought some Kalms day, which I'm going to try when I'm staying with my mum because I seem to react to everything these days!! I was going to give the gabapentin a go but I'm very wary of the side effects. So I'm going to try the natural route.

Feeling very emotional about Xmas, it's not the same since we lost my dad and my partner and I aren't spending it together this year due to loads of crap. FFS... Considering drinking my way though it

[CLKD]

Let us know if your 'natural' route helps symptoms.  Will that be Chocolate by any chance 

[Ladybt28]

Hope the Kalms works Kb21 - I always try natural first now.  I have had both gabapentin and amitriptyline in the past along with AD's for years.  I ditched everything (boy did they have me on a list!) prescription bar Arthrotec (painkiller), blood pressure tablet and my HRT about 4 years ago.  I did it cold turkey...absolutely NOT to be recommended  , that's another story completely and it took about 3 months before everything appeared out of the system.  I'm not saying don't take the gabapentin, it can be great if it works for you - like I said I'm a..if it works do it...person but added into all the other stuff it made me a bit of a zombie.  On its own it's probably grand!

[Kb21]

The problem with gabapentin is the worst side effect is suicidal ideation, which I don't have and don't want. The withdrawal can also be brutal. I'm keeping that if all else fails.

[CLKD]

It may not affect you.  I had that prior to taking ADs ......... really couldn't believe what my brain was doing  , saying, suggesting  .  We don't know enough nor appreciate our brains  .

[Kb21]

That's true CKLD. Medication on the last 12 months has had some nasty side effects, really puts you off. Let's hope the valerian helps, giving that a bash this evening. Xx

[Kb21]

Ended up taking 1mg diazepam yesterday afternoon because my anxiety was awful.

Then tried the Kalms at bedtime. Woke at 10.30 with crazy head then again at 12 with racing thoughts. Then slept till 5.30. Did not like the racing thoughts, made me feel weird. Don't know whether to try again tonight or not. I hate the feelings medication gives me. My mum thinks it's cause I'm over thinking it. Which is probably true but doesn't really help me out!!

Anyone else had this on valerian? Should I persevere?

[NaturalMystic]

NaturalMystic - you don't have Parkinsons - you are a menopausal women and your husband is NOT RIGHT!  I use natural Valarian for calming (Kalms has valarian root in it) and also for sleep Roseneath - you can get it straight off the shelf in Boots, so you could get your hands on some immediately.  I have tried other stuff for calming and it makes me feel hungover.  Should take the edge off NaturalMystic and Kb21.  (by the way Kb your may feel wretched and pathetic but you most certainly are not).                                                         

I also use Melatonin for sleeping which you get off the internet and I know of other ladies who comment on here use it too for poor sleep.  It is the chemical which your body produces naturally which makes you react to light that makes you sleep so also a natural remedy.  Might be worth a go Roseneath there is absolutely no harm in it at all and that also doesn't make you feel hungover.  I tend to use it when I am in a real state or have not been sleeping over 2 or 3 days.  You can get 1mg tablets right up to 10mg tablets.  I buy the 1mg and take as I need - if I'm bad I take 3mg and off I go into dreamland!  Just dont drink loads of alcohol with them or you will all sleep through Christmas!

Dont beat yourselves up about taking stuff, or thinking we "should be able to do this"! I know loads of us feel like that - if it makes you feel better (which it will) just do what you have to do - to be honest I viewed it like "hey I can't feel worse and I could feel better".  Sleep deprivation just ramps up everything else.

Hope your trips turn out ok 

Wrong person, good post though xx

[CLKD]

You can't over think. It's the brain doing it's own thing.  Valium does what it says on the tin - calms!! and 1mg isn't much, I was on 10 3 times a day then dropped to 5 

[Kb21]

To be honest if the Dr would prescribe diazepam, I'd happily use a small amount a couple of times a day but they won't. I have a small stash I've saved from a while ago for emergencies. They allowed me to have it for post natal depression 2mg x3 daily. I might ask the GP in January, is the only thing which doesn't make me feel more nuts!!!