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luv2laff

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Homeopathic medications
« on: April 02, 2018, 11:40:28 PM »

Hi, can anyone recommend a homeopathic med that I could take alongside my prescribed Sandrena? I also have a mirena coil for progesterone.
I'm hoping to find something homeopathic for libido. I also need to know whether it's ok to use homeopathic meds alongside prescription meds for menopause.
Thank you x
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Shadyglade

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« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2018, 06:35:02 AM »

As far as I know homeopathic Medication are safe as complimentary medication. Can't  help with the spacifics though.
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Wilks

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« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2018, 07:32:00 AM »

Are you using the term homeopathic to mean broadly any alternative/herbal remedy, or in the strict sense of something that's been diluted down so far that there are probably no molecules remaining? If you mean any herbal remedy, you have to be careful what you take- for example St John's Wort cannot be taken with HRT.
If you mean homeopathy in the stricter sense, then it won't interact with anything as it's similar to placebo.
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dangermouse

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Re: Homeopathic medications
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2018, 08:14:50 AM »

Apart from for First Aid, where sudden issues can respond to sudden treatment, homeopathy is more about a holistic triggering of the immune system. So libido, particularly if meno related, would be treated as part of your constitutional remedy.

I went to see a homeopath last year as was thinking of doing the fast track qual (as already a healthcare professional) but it's still expensive as it's a year of Uni fees and wanted to know it wasn't pure placebo, as I'd had a lot of success with it.

She was a lovely homeopath but got my remedy wrong (I've since figured it out, it's not easy!) and I respond very quickly to it where the other she gave me only brought small benefits. I also use the Ainsworth first aid kit which is very effective but libido wouldn't really sit within that, as it's a deeper, overall symptom.

However, yes once you either find your remedy (Google can be helpful!) or see a good homeopath then it won't affect your HRT. Also, the clearer your liver is, the better your response to homeopathy is so milk thistle can be a good pre-treatment.
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GypsyRoseLee

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Re: Homeopathic medications
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2018, 08:53:25 AM »

You can take as much homeopathic stuff as you want because it's purely placebo.
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CLKD

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Re: Homeopathic medications
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2018, 12:48:08 PM »

Yep.  Any doubts, have a look-see at Ben Goldacre who has researched lots of various alternatives, having the time and resources that I haven't got - taking on big companies who have no back-up or Research Double-blind test results for homeopathy.  However, there is nowt wrong with a placebo effect!  Being listened to.  Taking charge of our health.  Being in more control. 
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dangermouse

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Re: Homeopathic medications
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2018, 03:54:44 PM »

It's a real dilemma for me, as mine isn't just about investing in a £40 session, it's £3k! I like science to back things up to the point that when I trained in hypnotherapy I did an additional advanced course where we were all strapped up to ECGs and other equipment to demonstrate the changes in brain activity, measured against placebo. Saying that, hypnosis is a state of extreme focus so the same brain state would also be seen if intently concentrating on a book in a noisy room or in an active phobic state (as we hypnotise ourselves into a fear state without any evidence that anything is wrong!).

Anyway, my own experiences and my interest in quantum physics tells me there is more to it than placebo and new research is apparently on the way, which will be nothing to do with a cause and effect molecule, as you all know, nothing is there to measure, but more to do with the physical nature of shaking, dilution, energy, I don't know!

I realise to practice as a homeopath the market is going to be reduced due to the recent NHS funding cuts and, how things were when I first started out as a clinical hypnotherapist (before training as a psychotherapist) when hypnotists were seen as charlatans, you do get a hard time from the general public who aren't as polite as here!

However, something is telling me to go for it! My instinct has often proven very helpful in the past when everyone was saying ‘no' so let's see once I've had a more fuller meeting with the college's Principal.

(Sorry for hijacking this thread!).
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GypsyRoseLee

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« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2018, 04:38:58 PM »

I agree with you CLKD, in that there's nowt wrong with placebos if they're working. But that's all homeopathy is. Well that + having someone's sympathetic sole attention for an hour is probably a real boost too.
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bramble

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Re: Homeopathic medications
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2018, 05:08:35 PM »

There are those who believe in homeopathy and those who don't. I do believe in it strongly and I take issue with those of you who say it is merely a placebo effect.

However, Luv2laff was asking what to take rather than is it right or wrong. The answer from me would be to find a good homeopathic doctor, preferably by word of mouth recommendation. and go to see them. Most homeopaths would want you to make an appointment before recommending anything to take as they, as has been said, take a holistic view of the patient/client.

Bramble
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CLKD

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« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2018, 06:32:02 PM »

OK - as an aside: when I was given homeopathy I was told to avoid mint flavourings  :-\.  Was given a tea which tasted awful, I was warned.  Leaves went into the compost so no waste there  ;).  He was a UK GP who had spent a few years in China and what he told me made a lot of sense.  I didn't feel that he was spinning a yarn in order to take my money.  It didn't solve my problem though  :'(

I was told by someone who sold essential oils that lavender shouldn't be used by someone who thinks that they may be pregnant, but she couldn't tell me why  :-\. I know a bit of a meander  ::).  Whereas I grew up with lavender and love it.

To be certain that medications etc. are safe, a double blind test is essential.  That's not yet been tried in the UK with many 'alternatives'.

pays your monies, takes your choice ;-)
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Hurdity

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Re: Homeopathic medications
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2018, 06:47:26 PM »

There are those who believe in homeopathy and those who don't. I do believe in it strongly and I take issue with those of you who say it is merely a placebo effect.

Bramble

Belief and science are mutually exclusive. Science is not based on belief but on evidence and theories - religion is based on belief. Belief is what gives the placebo effect - which can then have a knock-on physical effect - but only to some extent and not when real medical intervention is needed.

It's great that you believe in it bramble and it is working for you - that's all that matters and does not diminish its power for some people - but so far, as the others have said, there is no scientific evidence for its efficacy as there is nothing there, as far as I understand it anyway.

(As another aside - dangermouse - I think the idea of the connection between quantum physics and biology is fascinating - there was a programme on BBC4 by Jim Al-Khalili recently - maybe you saw it?)

Hurdity x
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GypsyRoseLee

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Re: Homeopathic medications
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2018, 07:01:33 PM »

I'm the daughter of a scientist. Married to another scientist and have 2 siblings who are bio chemists. They roll their eyes at homeopathy.

There is no empirical data that proves there is anything chemically active/reactive in homeopathy.
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CLKD

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« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2018, 07:07:07 PM »

Me too - father a science teacher, DH a chemist and we have friends in Pharmacy  ::).

I found it intensely helpful to be able to talk to strangers about my child hood, without that person telling me 'that couldn't have happened because ........ ' so being listened to is the first step to healing for me.  I married a man who has never put pressure on me to do stuff.  He has been so accepting.  Which has helped healing.

Along the way I've tried this and that and grabbed what helped me at that time.  Including trying homeopathy.  I don't think it will do any harm and if it works then go with it.
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Shadyglade

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« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2018, 08:22:36 PM »

What you had sounds more like Chinese herbal medicine than homeopathy CLKD??
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Shadyglade

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« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2018, 08:31:21 PM »

I have used it from time to time, in the past,  and it's safe so long as it is used as a complimentary medicine and not an alternative. I believe it can help symptoms but not cure. It always worries me when people with serious illness like cancer, forgo  conventional treatment for alternatives. Complimentary is the safe way to go.
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