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[Machair]

So glad you are feeling ok nearly50. How are you Sparkle after the dental op and ER are you crippled from the sprinkler incident?

[Elizabethrose]

Thanks Machair. Boy do I ache! We don't bounce at this age, when we fall, we feel it later! I'm fine though, just very stiff. 

[Machair]

Hi Sparkle,

 Well still a bit sore but to be expected as I had a lot of injections - but temp filling ok and going back on 9th for the restoration to be completed. One removed was gold but having white this time.
Hope that's it for medical things for a bit as all very time consuming and costly!

[Machair]

How are we all doing ladies? For the last three days I have had what feels like PMT off the scale. Is it who knows?- but it is making me irritated!

[Elizabethrose]

Bother, any cervical mucus Machair? x

Sparkle that's a pain (literally). One thing I found is that when the VA started kicking in, I very suddenly started reacting to any product I used down there. The vegetable soap I've used for 30+ years, suddenly irritated. Anything I tried to replace it with irritated me too, even the recommendations here. I can't use anything to wash my bits with now: I use a clean flannel and water in the shower only. I clutch my muscles in my thighs, bottom and fanny when washing other areas of my body and hair to prevent ingress. Even panty liners seem to irritate. It's totally weird. Could this be an irritation to a product you are using? Mine was just around the entrance to the vagina (sorry for TMI!!)  x

All seems fine with me at the moment, no migs for quite some while.  x

How are you nearly50? x

[Machair]

Sparkle so sorry this is happening are you still using the Vagifem?

Well according to my charts it is day 27 and about two weeks since high oestrogen peaked. Will it be a period on the way?- who knows it could all fade overnight as it has done many times before! I have had some mucus intermittently since the big surge but it is the moody feelings that are pretty rubbish. Sleep is very interrupted - feel restless - usually get this before a bleed. Wait and see I guess.

How are you doing ER?

[Elizabethrose]

Ocado sent a different loo roll to me and I think that upset me too!! I wonder whether the tissue becomes super sensitised because of the VA. I had to stop the Sylk too. Complete bummer! Remove every single thing other than the Vagifem for a week, then start adding back one by one. x

Somethings burning, I'll be back! x

[nearly50]

Machair, hopefully it is just general irritation rather than PMT, maybe early effects of the full moon!

Taking my temperature has been quite helpful, at least it meant I was prepared for having another period straight after the last one - 17th day of bleeding today and wondering how I can possibly have enough blood left to walk about! Hasn't been heavy all the time though and my mood's been fine so in 'just get on with it' mode. I've been a vegetarian for 20 plus years and spent the day craving a roll and square sausage, haha.

Luteal phase 4 days long this time, crazy stuff going on in my body.

Hope you all have a lovely weekend.

[nearly50]

Sorry, forgot it is a Scottish thing. It is called Lorne sausage and flat, hard to describe especially when it must be 25 years since I ate it. Had to eat a carrot instead as that was all I had! Taking ferrous fumarate regularly so iron levels should still be OK,  but think it takes a while for my body to use its stores as very light headed.

[Elizabethrose]

Yep sorry, I was charring peppers over a flame and typing at the same time. Haha, pesky thing caught alight!. (Supposed to be charring the skin so no prob!)

Yes the fibres could be different but I think there may be additives that differ too. Who knows! But honestly give the giving up everything a try and see if it makes a difference. Jenna and others advised no soap at all, which didn't thrill me if I'm honest, (bit Howard Hughes) BUT it's worked. I clean with a clean flannel (every time) and the shower head spray set on a medium spray.

Ocado sent a different washing powder last week which made me uncomfortable. Switched back and all good again. I honestly believe that the VA has made me more sensitive to products.

Oh nearly50, what a pain. Nice thick steak, get those iron levels up!! (What the heck is a square sausage?) I hope it calms soon. how are you feeling in yourself now? Did you get your polling wish? x

Machair, nothing has changed, there is absolutely nothing hormonal going on. I honestly believe all the expected hormonal ducking and diving following the LMP happened during that last chaotic 18months when the oestrogen surges made me bleed. All is completely flatlining. Totally weird! x

[nearly50]

http://foodanddrink.scotsman.com/food/a-history-of-square-sausage-including-a-recipe-for-making-your-own/

Lorne sausage, couldn't eat it if you paid me, now weird craving has passed.

Feel OK thanks, mad to have 1 period in 5 months and then 3 in 6 weeks though

[Mbrown001]

I haven't used any soap on my nether regions for years. I just use my hand and the shower spray. You did make me laugh ER, clenching everything to stop soap going where you don't want it to. That's exactly what I do. What a lovely sight that must be.
I don't even have a bath anymore as without bubbles or oil it seems a bit pointless and I don't think that my clenching abilities extend to a bath 

Sparkle....square sausage is really  ... There are other uses for it though if it's overcooked. It's handy for soling shoes. The amount of fat that runs out of it is unbelievable. Yuk 

Mrs Brown

[Elizabethrose]

Oh thanks for that Mrs B, I didn't like to insult your national breakfast dish!! It sounds rather like a beef version of the McDonalds breakfast sausage patty. The description of the worst/cheapest kinds sounded vile, 'brown sauce or ketchup is necessary to disguise the flavour' 

When we were away over Christmas there was a full length mirror opposite the wet room type open shower. I swear I've never been so depressed in my life. It was like showering in a John Lewis fitting room, it made me want to weep!! It was like someone had exchanged my body in the night; right head wrong body.

nearly50, I had 6 months without a period then three in about 9 weeks, then that was it, the last! Maybe this is your grand finale!!     

Machair, I hope it calms, preferably without a period. Feel better too             

[nearly50]

To be fair, growing up in Ayrshire we had access to absolutely lovely, really high quality Lorne sausage from a farm nearby - doubt if I could find anything like it now. We also got fish straight from the harbour and vegetables which were grown in the garden or in a nursery down the street, really does make you think about how much things have changed. Or about how old I am......


ER, how fantastic it would be if this was my grand finale, but realistically I think I've a while to go. Making sense of it and seeing patterns makes a huge difference - I just hope I'm not off my head on Wednesday and Thursday this week as that's a pattern I need to break!

Hope you all have a lovely weeekend, still great weather here which is a bonus.

[Mbrown001]

I haven't eaten square sausage for years. Although like nearly 50 I grew up in Ayrshire ( small world ) and I agree that it used to be really good.

I know I can't contribute to the main topic here but I would like to say I've read it for a very long time and have been amazed at the support you ladies have given each other on your journey to the other side.

I was one of the early meno ones who really has no idea where I am. Probably well post by now. I still recognise a bit of a cycle though even after nearly eight years on HRT. We just know our bodies so well I think.

Mrs Brown