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[CLKD]

Your Husband is correct: your son has attitude problems, he's a TEEN - comes with the terrirotyr.  Apparently! 

Your son will chop and change, this may depend upon how he is feeling at that moment.  Do talk to the School to find out what is available.  That way the Staff can step in when necessary.

Keep up with the ADs too much change now won't help.  As 4 your son, do explain that your suggestions are intended to help and that U will not accept moods around the house.  Become the parent and your husband should also put foot down with firm hand.  If your son kicks off allow him to vent ........ home should be the safe space. Try not to worry too much about him, you have given him routes to access.  At his age they still need the support even though they won't agree!

[Losingtheplot]

Your Husband is correct: your son has attitude problems, he's a TEEN - comes with the terrirotyr.  Apparently! 

Your son will chop and change, this may depend upon how he is feeling at that moment.  Do talk to the School to find out what is available.  That way the Staff can step in when necessary.

Keep up with the ADs too much change now won't help.  As 4 your son, do explain that your suggestions are intended to help and that U will not accept moods around the house.  Become the parent and your husband should also put foot down with firm hand.  If your son kicks off allow him to vent ........ home should be the safe space. Try not to worry too much about him, you have given him routes to access.  At his age they still need the support even though they won't agree!

Thank you. I will stick with the Ad's
I know things will get better both for me and my son, I know that.
I am being a parent but its a fine line when someone is struggling to be to firm. I have explained to my son that everyone can struggle at times and its important to get help. I have told him I am worried about him. He is a very sensitive boy and does take things to heart. He knows the boundaries by us set and rarely over steps them.
Everyone has there own parenting technique and I won't stand for bad language (not that this is an issue or aggression again not an issue).
Its more my son sounding off and venting.

[CLKD]

Which I do often, mainly at the TV 

[Losingtheplot]

Just woke up feelings of dread,how will I get thru the day. Don't want to be here.

I have a GP appointment today, not expecting a miracle cure as one doesn't exist. I'm am so worn out with feeling like this and fighting my dark thoughts every waking moment of everyday. The only time my mind is at rest is when I sleep.

I will ask my GP for a full blood count, explain my dark thoughts but what can she do in reality. Nothing. Tell me to wait for the increase in HRT to work, only been 4 weeks.

Everyday is a living torture in my mind mentally. Im trying to keep it together in front of hubby as I don't want him worrying.
He made a joke yesterday how back to work for him on Monday, but ok for some as I have decided to take a few weeks off!
That hurt deeply 😞 but I know he was joking as he doesn't know how to help me.

I also have an assessment with Talking Therapies today. Tried CBT with them in the past and wasn't for me. Not sure what therapy they will suggest 🤔. I do have childhood trauma that affects me but a history of anxiety and depression too.

Anyway time to put a mask on !

[CLKD]

I have fixed grins in a drawer ;-)

Many years ago when my IBS took over I spent a day in desperation thinking that the GP would tell me that I had 'to live with it'.  Nothing further than the truth, once the symptoms were described "I can help U with that". 

So don't anticipate. Tell your GP that your dark thoughts are nothing to do with waiting for the HRT to kick in, that U need help now.  Your GP has options when patients are truthful.

I can understand your hurt with your husband's comment, he really shouldn't ........ but men are not able to think ahead!  As U say, many remain in the dark.

Let us know how you get on.  CBT was no good 4 me as my phobia began within hours of being born, a deeply learnt pattern.

[Losingtheplot]

GP has told to me to wait till 3 months for the HRT and if needed dose can be increased after this time. Most symptoms are controlled now, just the anxiety/ depression.
GP is agreeable to bloods to check levels for Vit D, Iron, Thyroid and Vit B12.
Wants me to stay on the increased Ad's and be reviewed in 2 weeks by then will be 6 weeks of being on Ad's and 2.5 weeks of increased dose.
If no significant improvement she may look at changing Ad's from Fluoxetine to Sertraline.
If things improve on the increased Fluoxetine then I continue this dose till Jan and see how things are then.
I do feel some improvements on Fluoxetine, my mind isnt racing constantly its just the lack of motivation, immense low mood, hopelessness.
The GP was v understanding and at 54 she told me she still struggles.
I just want to be at the stage where things are manageable so I can live a quality of life and go back to work. Not be consumed with dark thoughts and feelings that I can't cope. Will take a day at a time and focus on me.

[Kathleen]

Hello again Losingtheplot.

It sounds as if your appointment went well and your GP is certainly covering all the bases for you.

One of the things I learned recently is that iron deficiency can reduce the effectiveness of  ADs, so a full blood test is a good idea.

I hope you feel reassured now that plans are in place to help you and please keep us updated.

Wishing you well and sending hugs.

K.

[Lucoley]

Losing the plot I get you. Totally.

Im currently weaning off HRT. I will not bore you with the details but I feel very similar although it is up and down. Already on Citalopram 20mg longstanding and my anxiety and depression has been horrid. Particularly in the mornings. I too have found myself looking into suicide disturbingly. It is up and down I will say, some days worse than others. I have taken sick leave from work, 4th week currently and honestly I thought Id have gone back by now.

My advise if I can be interfering? Be honest with your husband. Ive been as honest as I can with mine and my 2 adult daughters and they have been incredibly supportive.

The worst for me is Im quite bored but am unable to make plans as I dont know how Ill feel. It sucks.

[CLKD]

Losingtheplot - why is your GP waiting for 2 more weeks when U have such severe symptoms?   

Which is worse for you: depression or anxiety?

Lucoley - don't be bored, plenty of afternoon TV to doze in front of ;-). Starting at 10 with Homes under the Hammer ........  . Allow the medication to do it' work and like U, I try not to make plans  'in case I feel worse' 

[Losingtheplot]

Hello again Losingtheplot.

It sounds as if your appointment went well and your GP is certainly covering all the bases for you.

One of the things I learned recently is that iron deficiency can reduce the effectiveness of  ADs, so a full blood test is a good idea.

I hope you feel reassured now that plans are in place to help you and please keep us updated.

Wishing you well and sending hugs.

K.

Hi Kathleen,

Yes I do feel reassured thanks. Atleast if I am deficient in Iron I can increase my levels by taking some supplements. I think my vit d should be ok as I take a supplement everyday.
Either way I will know where I stand with my levels. And you are right low iron can play havoc with anxiety and low mood.

Thank you I will I appreciate your support

[Losingtheplot]

Losing the plot I get you. Totally.

Im currently weaning off HRT. I will not bore you with the details but I feel very similar although it is up and down. Already on Citalopram 20mg longstanding and my anxiety and depression has been horrid. Particularly in the mornings. I too have found myself looking into suicide disturbingly. It is up and down I will say, some days worse than others. I have taken sick leave from work, 4th week currently and honestly I thought Id have gone back by now.

My advise if I can be interfering? Be honest with your husband. Ive been as honest as I can with mine and my 2 adult daughters and they have been incredibly supportive.

The worst for me is Im quite bored but am unable to make plans as I dont know how Ill feel. It sucks.

Ahhh thank you for sharing how you are feeling. I am so sorry you are also going thru a horrendous time. You have my fullest sympathy. I have today told my husband how I am struggling and he is being very supportive. I just don't like to worry him. Its a difficult situation as being honest is the best way. However he has lost people close to him to suicide, his aunty a number of years ago.
I feel for you with the plan making as I am also reluctant to make.plans and also feeling v bored. I need to get back to the gym even if its just for 30 mins.
I hope things improve for you soon. Has the HRT not helped you?

[Losingtheplot]

Losingtheplot - why is your GP waiting for 2 more weeks when U have such severe symptoms?   

Which is worse for you: depression or anxiety?

Lucoley - don't be bored, plenty of afternoon TV to doze in front of ;-). Starting at 10 with Homes under the Hammer ........  . Allow the medication to do it' work and like U, I try not to make plans  'in case I feel worse' 

I do feel the Ad's are helping and things tend to get worse on them before better. The suicide thoughts are less and my mind is less busy with negative thoughts so I feel they are helping but need longer to see if increased dose takes the edge off some.more.


As I increased the dose 3 days ago she said can take a few weeks for that to show any benefit. She did offer Sertraline but I opted to stay with the Fluoxetine for now so she agreed to review me in 2 weeks and said if I didn't feel improvement then she suggests I try Sertraline.
I guess its a waiting game for now.
I don't want to chop.and change my meds too soon if I am feeling some benefit. I feel the anxiety has worn me down and lead to some feelings of depression but the anxiety is still the main driving force.

[CLKD]

My friend did well on Sertraline  whereas the escitalopram really suits me.  Especially after my GP upped by 5mg in April.  So stick with what U R, did U explain your suicidal thoughts to the GP?

At least U R having less intrusive thoughts etc. , that's a relief.  ..... and breath.  Certainly I know the difference between depression and anxiety.

[Losingtheplot]

My friend did well on Sertraline  whereas the escitalopram really suits me.  Especially after my GP upped by 5mg in April.  So stick with what U R, did U explain your suicidal thoughts to the GP?

At least U R having less intrusive thoughts etc. , that's a relief.  ..... and breath.  Certainly I know the difference between depression and anxiety.

I did explain the dark thoughts and that can happen with Ad's unfortunately.

Yes I don't feel depressed as that is a whole debilitating illness where I cant get out of bed.

[CLKD]

Yep.  I would crawl down the stairs when the dog wanted 'out', lay on the floor with the French doors open until she jumped back inside: then crawl back upstairs.