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Dramy3

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Re: Surgical menopause - feeling awful :(
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2024, 11:19:10 AM »

Sorry for late reply. Yesterday I literally hit rock bottom after being awake all night Sunday having panic attacks.
I've been signed off and am going to take things one day at a time. The gp has increased my ad's and I'm waiting to hear back from the MS.

I've been exactly where you are. I had to take 3 months off. It was the best thing I could have done. Just to have the space to get through it all calmed me down. I'm also on ADs and saw a psychiatrist who upped my dose quite a bit (150mg sertraline now). I was also prescribed promethizine to help with sleep and settle my stomach as I wasn't eating. I spent a week pretty dosed up and in bed and it helped so much.

As an aside just for info--I was on 2 dots of androfemme (testosterone) + 75mcg oestradial patch. My testosterone level was 3 times the limit but FAI was in the normal range so my MP kept my dose as-is at my appointment in late July. Even though it went against everything I could read about testosterone HRT, I had a feeling it might be making my anxiety and depression worse. So I stopped it and instantly felt about 50% better the next day. I can't explain this and no one else seems to have had this reaction, but I thought I'd mention it just in case you add in testosterone. I don't want to put you off it as the evidence says it helps most women with their mood and I'm totally an outlier. But just wanted to share the experience in case it's relevant at any point.

This gets better. I was so low they were considering hospitalising me (sectioning me). But a proper work break and the right meds and HRT have made me 75% better in just 6 weeks. You'll get there too.
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Nas

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Re: Surgical menopause - feeling awful :(
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2024, 12:24:16 PM »

Hi Dramy3
Did you see an psychiatrist on the NHS or privately (if you don't mind me asking?)
Did you build up to 150mg sertraline?

I had a full hysterectomy last year and am also on hormone blockers. I can't take systemic HRT but am feeling dreadful.

What has the sertraline helped with most?

redandpink stripes, I am glad you have been signed off work; it sounds as though you are having a very hard time of things.
I hope you start to recover soon xx
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Dramy3

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Re: Surgical menopause - feeling awful :(
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2024, 12:59:05 PM »

Hi Nas
Ask away! I have been seeing a private therapist for 9 months but my anxiety and depression got worse and worse from July so was switched from the 20mg escitalopram I had been on for 6 months (15mg for the last 8 years) to sertraline. I took 10mg escitalopram + 50mg sertraline for one week and then went to 100mg sertraline. My symptoms continued to decline (was slowing increasing my oestrogen patch as well as 2 dots of testosterone) through August and I had what I can only describe as a psychotic break mid-September where I was threatening suicide, dissociating, not eating or sleeping. My wife got the NHS crisis team involved that day and an NHS psychiatrist saw me 24 hours later. He upped the sertraline to 150mg that day and added promethizine to make sure I slept and to take during the day if I needed to zone out for a while. It was bad. I started to feel better after about 3 days as I was sleeping and then wobbled a bit for a few more days until I decided to try cutting out the testosterone. I woke up the next morning with a clear head and no panic. I obviously can't put it all down to testosterone as I was doing other things to help, but it was key for me.

The sertraline is rough on my stomach and I feel a bit nauseous for a few hours after taking. I also have to take in the morning because it keeps me awake if I take at night. I'm pretty numb emotionally, but working 2 days a week and functioning pretty much as I was before things got really bad. I've just started reducing the sertraline dose to 125mg every other day (with 150mg on alternate days). Will do that for a week and then go to 125mg if all ok. My aim is to reduce to 100mg over the next 6 weeks or so if I can.

I had a total hysterectomy (kept the ovaries) 5 years ago and then breast cancer 3 months later. The hormone journey has been complicated for me but I'm confident the choices I've made are right for me. Quality of life is my focus now and that involves systemic oestrogen, oestrogen cream (ovestin) daily and the antidepressant. My hope is to decrease the AD and oestrogen as and when my body agrees with it. That may be never, and I'm ok with that because I've looked into the abyss and won't go back.

I know how you feel. I don't think anyone realised how desperate I was until the suicide talk started. I wouldn't wish that on anyone, but hitting the bottom made me willing to accept any and all help offered.

I wish you all the best and happy to answer any questions about ADs, etc if it helps at all.
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Nas

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Re: Surgical menopause - feeling awful :(
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2024, 01:31:37 PM »

Thanks Dramy3
I will get back in touch when
I have a spare moment. Lots of questions to ask? It’s totally hideous.

Can I send you a message, as I don’t want to hijack redandpinkstripes thread?
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Dramy3

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Re: Surgical menopause - feeling awful :(
« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2024, 02:43:17 PM »

Thanks Dramy3
I will get back in touch when
I have a spare moment. Lots of questions to ask? It’s totally hideous.

Can I send you a message, as I don’t want to hijack redandpinkstripes thread?

Of course. I just realised Messages were a thing on here!
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Nas

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Re: Surgical menopause - feeling awful :(
« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2024, 02:51:21 PM »

Thanks Dramy3
I will get back in touch when
I have a spare moment. Lots of questions to ask? It’s totally hideous.

Can I send you a message, as I don’t want to hijack redandpinkstripes thread?

Of course. I just realised Messages were a thing on here!
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😊
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CLKD

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Re: Surgical menopause - feeling awful :(
« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2024, 04:08:54 PM »

1 query Dramy?  Why not take the anti-depressant if it helps?  I wouldn't be without mine.
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Dramy3

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Re: Surgical menopause - feeling awful :(
« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2024, 04:14:25 PM »

1 query Dramy?  Why not take the anti-depressant if it helps?  I wouldn't be without mine.

Hi CLKD. I am taking an AD (sertraline). Just switched from escitalopram to sertraline and upped the dose. I'd like to get the dose down over time, though, as sertraline has some side effects for me. But if that can't happen, I'll happily stay on it as long as needed.
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Re: Surgical menopause - feeling awful :(
« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2024, 04:44:57 PM »

Let us know how you get on.
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redandpinkstripes

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Re: Surgical menopause - feeling awful :(
« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2024, 08:02:01 PM »

Please don't apologise. I'm forgetting everything at the moment   8) xx
My anxiety is a lot calmer, thank you. I just feel low in my mood and worried about what's next. I know it's not going to be a quick fix :(
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CLKD

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Re: Surgical menopause - feeling awful :(
« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2024, 08:03:44 PM »

Half a day at a time.  Don't look too far forwards.  Rest when you want to. 
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redandpinkstripes

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Re: Surgical menopause - feeling awful :(
« Reply #26 on: October 30, 2024, 08:09:29 PM »

Hi Dramy
Thanks so much for your helpful post, it gives me hope.
I am so sorry you have had such a hard time though :(
I just wasn't expecting any of this and just wanted the surgery done and stupidly thought I'd get my life back. They have to be careful with me as they believe I have Endo, as HRT seems to flare up the pain.
I do feel guilty being off, as I'm letting people down but I can't do it anymore. It feels as though  Ive been walking on a broken leg and it's finally broken (if that makes any sense)
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redandpinkstripes

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Re: Surgical menopause - feeling awful :(
« Reply #27 on: October 30, 2024, 08:13:44 PM »

Thank you Nas. I'm so sorry to hear you are suffering. I really feel for you. It is brutal:(
I really appreciate your kind words. All I know is I can't do it anymore.
I'm here for you, if you need a chat xx
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Re: Surgical menopause - feeling awful :(
« Reply #28 on: October 30, 2024, 08:23:24 PM »

Half a day at a time.  Don't look too far forwards.  Rest when you want to.
I need to remember this. Thank you xx
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CLKD

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Re: Surgical menopause - feeling awful :(
« Reply #29 on: October 30, 2024, 09:03:23 PM »

Women aren't 'allowed' to listen to their bodies or appear vulnerable  >:(.  Sometimes we have to take time out ;-)
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