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[Ayesha]

I was like you once, wouldn't even take a paracetamol but the ageing process changes all that nonsense.
I couldn't cope with the hot flushes they were exhausting and it was impossible to function so I went on HRT. Did the job and after five years I had enough and came off it but it did what I wanted and my menopause journey was an easy ride thereafter. 

Honestly, I don't do pain but if they offer me anything now instead of saying no all the time I say yes and you will too because life is too short, one thing I know the ageing process can be cruel.

[Sag69]

When I say natural I don’t mean taking all the herbs& potions! I  mean letting my body do what it supposed to be doing at this stage of life!
Yes it’s extremely hard& ye only got myself to blame because I can go and get hrt,but I see it as a natural thing what my body needs to do,so I don’t like to interfere with nature& pump something into my body
Just me ladies I can’t help it😩

I would make myself even worse if I took something, because then I would be stressing more thinking what it’s doin to me🤷‍♀️

[Ayesha]

That was me four years ago when the doctor looked at me sternly and said you need oestrogen down there. I said NO and that I would try moisturisers first. Five days later I am on the phone begging for it, from that day on I never say no to what's offered, I will at least give it a go.

You can't beat the ageing process you might as well join it and take the meds for a better quality of life because there are some conditions that are impossible to live with.

[Kathleen]

Hello again Sag69


I completely understand your point of view.
I didn't want to go on HRT. My GP told me that the upheaval would all be over after three years without a period but that was when the daily anxiety started ( bizarrely always disappearing in the late evening only to return again the next morning). By this time I decided to give HRT a try.  Unfortunately this has not been easy either and perhaps if I had toughed it out I would have managed without any additional hormones.

Many women seem to cope without HRT and perhaps you will be one of them. Only time will tell and there is plenty of help out there so you are not alone.

Wishing you well and take care.

K.

[Mary G]

Sag69, if you are not prepared to take HRT or any other medication, there is nothing you can do.  You could have those symptoms for years or worse still, the rest of your life. 

I would argue that the menopause is a design fault in the female body.  Obviously hormones should drop so that women are no longer fertile but there should be enough oestrogen circulating to prevent both short and long term health problems caused by oestrogen deficiency.

Thyroid function often deteriorates post menopause and it is unadvisable to refuse medication for that.

[CLKD]

Digitalis [foxgloves] are natural but un-less synthesised they would kill a person
Laburnum is natural .......

Perimenopause - the Change - is natural

Alternatives may work for a while but are not recommended to be used for more than 3 months at a time or when taking other medications

What exactly do U want us 2 advise you about?  How do U deal with aches and pains for example? 

What do U feel cheated about?   

[Nas]

You have choices and to not take HRT ( or any other medication) is entirely your choice. But you can’t then say you feel cheated or fed up with symptoms ( although they could subside at some point).

Totally agree with Mary G. There is a definite design fault in the female body. We shouldn’t be left with such a lack of oestrogen, that leaves some of us with debilitating symptoms. These symptoms can stick around for a long time, so maybe think about that.

Totally understand the worry about taking HRT and wanting the symptoms to end, but there are lots of options out there.

[CLKD]

Sag69 - If U opted for replacement which symptom would you like to ease first?

Also HRT does protect heart, bones and eases many issues.  Do read 'the bladder issues' and vaginal atrophy threads, 4 warned is 4 armed ;-)

[SundayGirl]

Sag69 - it seems to me that what you wanted when you posted on here was reassurance that all these things will come to an end and not go on forever.

What you seem to be getting is a lot of bullying, belittling and preaching.

You are NOT stupid for not wanting to use HRT.

As for the comment about it being unadvisable to refuse medication for thyroid dysfunction, you won't get many people doing that. Without thryroxine you would die. You're not going to die without sex hormones. (There's a damn good reason for a medical exemption certificate for certain issues and HRT is not one of them)

[Nas]

It would be great to offer reassurance that symptoms will come to an end at some point and not go on forever. Maybe that is the case for some. But for others, the debilitating symptoms can continue, as oestrogen is never replaced naturally ( obviously).

Menopause is for life. For some its kind and for others, it’s brutal.

 

[Ayesha]

Not bullying, belittling or preaching,  just women not wanting another woman to suffer when there is no need.

[CLKD]

Morning Sag69.  MayB have a lookC at your over all diet, exercise regime, social circle etc..  U may find that your symptoms don't last very long - I know that I was lucky in that once my periods stopped the cold flushes after m y bath went after a few months.  Vaginal atrophy was diagnosed by my GP several years later and is treated successfully with regular 'estriol' cream inserted into the vagina. Gently.

Some find that keeping a mood/food/symptom diary of use.