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Booroo

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Still fed up with all of it
« on: December 29, 2022, 06:49:44 AM »

So now have different issues which cripple me, I have had really bad anxiety this last week but it’s the racing heart and shakes and I get this horrible morning thing like that before I get up. Have panic attacks in night at times,have started cbt and doing calm app am trying to ask for hrt is this all normal?! Had ecg a while ago was all ok. Course kept checking my Apple Watch for heart rate not good idea with anxiety?
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Honeybee2

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Re: Still fed up with all of it
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2022, 07:42:36 AM »

Hi Booroo
I understand and relate to what you are saying . I too have crippling anxiety racing heart ,shaking ,sweating ,nausea ,insomnia and that awful morning feeling . I find it hard aswell most days I wish I had the answer but knowing that you are not alone maybe will help. X
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Booroo

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Re: Still fed up with all of it
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2022, 08:12:58 AM »

Aww honeybee2 thank you xx
Do you take anything for any of it?
Will probably go and cry now x
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trandall

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Re: Still fed up with all of it
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2022, 08:30:36 AM »

Morning my lovely I also know what you are feeling very strange symptoms that can be frightening and I also was sent for an ECG exactly what you describe and hard to get your head around. I too have had anxiety (didn’t suffer before menopause) I think your right about your Apple Watch not helping too. I started on HRT patches earlier this year and have had significant improvement so maybe worth a try. Take care
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Booroo

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Re: Still fed up with all of it
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2022, 08:35:58 AM »

Morning my lovely I also know what you are feeling very strange symptoms that can be frightening and I also was sent for an ECG exactly what you describe and hard to get your head around. I too have had anxiety (didn’t suffer before menopause) I think your right about your Apple Watch not helping too. I started on HRT patches earlier this year and have had significant improvement so maybe worth a try. Take care

Thank you x
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Honeybee2

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Re: Still fed up with all of it
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2022, 10:10:30 AM »

I have been on hrt but it’s helped slightly and feel my dose is not right .. I have felt exactly like you … I took myself up a&E countless times and had sooo many tests all ok. Ecgs bloods brain scans nothing abnormal yet I feel abnormal
I think I have got myself into a spiral I don’t feel right then I think it can’t be menopause it’s too extreme . Then obviously my body reacts even more intensely and the circle of doom begins. I constantly assess how my body feels and it’s horrible . It has created awful health anxiety and this makes me so sad and frustrated
I do notice with me I am much worse in the mornings and eases by the evening all very strange x
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CLKD

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Re: Still fed up with all of it
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2022, 10:19:05 AM »

Menopause symptoms can be extreme.  As hormone levels rise and fall, along with any HRT, the body can be thrown into all kinds of symptoms. 

Some find that keeping a mood/food/symptom diary of use to chart progress.  Others find that having an appt at a dedicated menopause clinic of use.  Depending on the state of hormone levels, altering the HRT regime may help but not all at once as usually, the body doesn't get where it is suddenly.  Even when surgical intervention has happened, it may take 2-3 weeks for the body to begin complaining.

MayB think which symptom you would like to ease first?  Cortisol - the waking hormone in the early hours - would send me into deep, prehensile fear  :'(
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Booroo

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Re: Still fed up with all of it
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2022, 01:24:42 PM »

Am waiting for a ring back as did an e consult yesterday which was useless I wanted to try the utrogesten as a oessary as I didn’t tolerate them orally and still have gel in cupboard! Cos it was off licence and consult sent to Livi they couldn’t do it but my centre should be able to? Not happy and then the rubbish night that was also with a panic attack.
I am pre diabetic but don’t think it’s that, will get bloods done soon anyways
But the cortisol in morning is strange like wakes you right up and want to get out but I take my time in case it makes me drop and that I don’t want to do x
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Flossieteacake

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Re: Still fed up with all of it
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2022, 01:26:02 PM »

Did you keep the ultrogestan because you could try one vaginally and see how that goes for you.
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Booroo

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Re: Still fed up with all of it
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2022, 01:43:09 PM »

I still have them aswell as sandrena gel but would prefer the pessaries as they are more designed for that delivery I would think
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Flossieteacake

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Re: Still fed up with all of it
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2022, 01:44:49 PM »

I still have them aswell as sandrena gel but would prefer the pessaries as they are more designed for that delivery I would think

Do they do ultrogestan pessaries? I thought they only made the capsules and they could be taken orally or vaginally?
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Re: Still fed up with all of it
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2022, 01:49:33 PM »

Go on Girl, give it a go ;-).  MayB put the product name into the search box to see threads for advice?  Then let us know.
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Booroo

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Re: Still fed up with all of it
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2022, 01:50:48 PM »

I still have them aswell as sandrena gel but would prefer the pessaries as they are more designed for that delivery I would think

Do they do ultrogestan pessaries? I thought they only made the capsules and they could be taken orally or vaginally?

I assume so as gp said unless it’s a different progesterone? No idea me lol
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Flossieteacake

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Re: Still fed up with all of it
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2022, 02:03:59 PM »

I still have them aswell as sandrena gel but would prefer the pessaries as they are more designed for that delivery I would think

Do they do ultrogestan pessaries? I thought they only made the capsules and they could be taken orally or vaginally?

I assume so as gp said unless it’s a different progesterone? No idea me lol

I looked this up and it seems to be the same regardless of how it is taken.
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DottyD68

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Re: Still fed up with all of it
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2022, 02:58:44 PM »

Hi Booroo

I can relate to how you are feeling and it's awful. I never had anxiety before peri-menopause but now it seems to be my main symptom and I'm currently going through a phase of it. HRT seemed to help until I had a big blip in August when GP tried to change regime whilst I was recovering from Covid. Since then I've not been right.

I think this recent episode was triggered by my mother who went into a carehome with Alzheimer's this year. She was pretty settled til last month when visits became unbearable as she just demands to "go home" on repeat. Despite arranging to see all the family (16 of us) the week before Christmas (which I found incredibly stressful organising and in hindsight was not a good idea) she was still expecting to be with family on Christmas day which couldn't happen. This was the 1st year she didn't see any of the family on Christmas day and I have felt terrible about it even though I know her carehome laid on a lovely day. I am now dreading going to visit her as the demands to go home will continue. As a result my nightly palpitations, wobbly tummy and shakes have reappeared. I have my HRT review next week (if I can get an appointment) and I feel that if we can't tweak my HRT to control my anxiety better I may have to try other meds as I can't live like this. My social anxiety is awful and I have gone from being a confident, happy, fun person to trying to avoid meet-ups with lovely friends because I don't want to drag them down. The week before Christmas was a nightmare. I had tried to carefully space social activities out so I wasn't over-doing it but then various friends appeared last minute and before I knew it I felt totally overwhelmed with it all and out of control. I dont think the last 2 years of pre-christmas lockdowns have helped and I had got out of the habit of the pre-christmas madness.

I also get anxious about not being able to speak to a GP. Access to my surgery is very difficult on a good day and only compounded by the Christmas break.

I am "enjoying" a really quiet week this week trying to get on top of things with exercise, Meditation and lots of chamomile tea. I did try Kalms for 3 days over Christmas which seemed to help but gave me terrible tummy trouble so I stopped them. I am hoping that once we get past the New Year and things become more routine things will settle. Gosh I really do sound like bah humbug don't I! What happened to me?

I hope you get the help you need x
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