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KaraShannon

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Getting words mixed up
« on: December 13, 2022, 07:44:27 PM »

Does anyone else have this where they are saying something and the words mix up?

I know we all have it from time to time but I'm getting it a lot lately and then I worry about stroke. 

I've been very anxious in the last week since my Estradiol has been lowered.  I just muttered to myself while cooking that too much is happening right now and that's why I'm anxious and also my mum is relying on me heavily.  Then I was about to say to myself 'you're not being given a chance,' but as I said it under my breath (while cooking, I hope I'm not the only one, but that's normal for me, lol), it came out as 'you're not being a, being given a chance.'  The 'a' came too quickly. 

I know this is a small thing, but I think I've been feeling anxious a lot lately and it was like even when I was trying to reassure myself, my own speech was a problem.  Those things are not typical for me either.

I've been feeling pretty confused tonight.  Ok my car died on me and I had to walk home and I've possibly got the flu.  I panicked over the car as I had to try and push it (triggers to a previous traumatic incident).  Everything was ok in the end and with all that said, I normally handle things. 

I know I've started a thread asking if the estradiol reducing is the reason for the anxiety and overwhelm and I'll go back to that thread (thanks Flossieteacake for your supportive words, I have read them), but this one is specifically about mixing words up.  I'm worried because a relative had dementia and I already have word finding difficulties, I've had them for 20 years though and it's very mild.  But this today has bothered me. 

Or is it a feature of menopause?  Can I kick back and stop worrying for a while.   :-\

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Re: Getting words mixed up
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2022, 07:58:53 PM »

Are U hydrated and I don't mean alcohol.  It is known that in the elderly that if they don't drink often enough, they can become confused. 

Where is the car?  Do you have a reliable mechanic to fix it?  What makes you think that you have 'flu?  Get some Paracetamol down you, making a note of when you take it. 

I often mix up words; forget peoples' names; wander around the store with DH in tow 'I know it's here somewhere', completely forgetting what I'm looking for and of course, he can't help.  I can enjoy a book but never remember who the author was or what the plot is about.

I'm good at making lists!  Holiday clothing, birthdays, shopping requirements.  We have a 'his/hers' calendar; if it ain't written there we aint' doing it!  Out of our heads and written where we can see it.

It's about making a plan 4 what will work for you.  U kick back once you have a plan.  It is known that in pregnancy some women have this type of problem so it may be hormonally linked.
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Re: Getting words mixed up
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2022, 08:14:18 PM »

I am constantly mixing up words, forgetting words, stammering. I never ever had this problem before menopause and like you, worry I have dementia or sonething else.

From what I have read on here many of us seem to have these symptoms. I can understand your concerns. It is not nice.

There is nothing wrong with talking to yourself and reasuaring yourself is comforting. :)
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KaraShannon

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Re: Getting words mixed up
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2022, 08:20:02 PM »

Are U hydrated and I don't mean alcohol.  It is known that in the elderly that if they don't drink often enough, they can become confused. 

Where is the car?  Do you have a reliable mechanic to fix it?  What makes you think that you have 'flu?  Get some Paracetamol down you, making a note of when you take it. 

I often mix up words; forget peoples' names; wander around the store with DH in tow 'I know it's here somewhere', completely forgetting what I'm looking for and of course, he can't help.  I can enjoy a book but never remember who the author was or what the plot is about.

I'm good at making lists!  Holiday clothing, birthdays, shopping requirements.  We have a 'his/hers' calendar; if it ain't written there we aint' doing it!  Out of our heads and written where we can see it.

It's about making a plan 4 what will work for you.  U kick back once you have a plan.  It is known that in pregnancy some women have this type of problem so it may be hormonally linked.

Thanks CLKD

I like the one where you are walking around the store not remembering what you are looking for, that makes me feel better as that feels a bit like how I felt in the last hour.

I am dehydrated, but I would hope that doesn't affect me yet.  I haven't eaten all day because of this bug and I seem to easily dehydrate at certain times of the month.  I am a week into the oestrogen cycle.  Perhaps I'm still on too much oestrogen.  I've reduced it by 25 and my levels were high.  The doctor suggested reducing by 50 but it's being done gradually.  Maybe it's the oestrogen as I think I've had similar when using vagifem.

Actually, with vagifem I get migraine.  I'm having a break from it at the moment so it's not that, but it's funny when I came home this evening after my dramas with the car, it felt like the house was too dark, even with the lights on.  I've had that in the past and it's usually a mild migraine thing.  I've eaten a ton of dark chocolate over the full moon, so perhaps that's also a problem, lol
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Re: Getting words mixed up
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2022, 08:22:08 PM »

I am constantly mixing up words, forgetting words, stammering. I never ever had this problem before menopause and like you, worry I have dementia or sonething else.

From what I have read on here many of us seem to have these symptoms. I can understand your concerns. It is not nice.

There is nothing wrong with talking to yourself and reasuaring yourself is comforting. :)

Oh yep I've always talked to myself  ;D it helps me work out what I'm doing, but that's not new, lol. 

Thanks, if you also mix up word and find you never had this before menopause then that makes me feel better.   :)
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« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2022, 08:42:36 PM »

I am constantly mixing up words, forgetting words, stammering. I never ever had this problem before menopause and like you, worry I have dementia or sonething else.

From what I have read on here many of us seem to have these symptoms. I can understand your concerns. It is not nice.

There is nothing wrong with talking to yourself and reasuaring yourself is comforting. :)

Oh yep I've always talked to myself  ;D it helps me work out what I'm doing, but that's not new, lol. 

Thanks, if you also mix up word and find you never had this before menopause then that makes me feel better.   :)

I am so pleased to have helped a bit. If possible maybe you could take sips of water through out the day just to help hydrate yourself as it is so important especially as you are poorly.
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Re: Getting words mixed up
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2022, 08:57:39 PM »

I am constantly mixing up words, forgetting words, stammering. I never ever had this problem before menopause and like you, worry I have dementia or sonething else.

From what I have read on here many of us seem to have these symptoms. I can understand your concerns. It is not nice.

There is nothing wrong with talking to yourself and reasuaring yourself is comforting. :)

Oh yep I've always talked to myself  ;D it helps me work out what I'm doing, but that's not new, lol. 

Thanks, if you also mix up word and find you never had this before menopause then that makes me feel better.   :)

I am so pleased to have helped a bit. If possible maybe you could take sips of water through out the day just to help hydrate yourself as it is so important especially as you are poorly.

I will.  More and more I'm thinking this is oestrogen though and my levels might still be too high.

I think I'm on the 3rd or 4th estradiol patch now and will soon be on my switch to estradiol / progesterone combined.  I'm always so much better on that even though I'm getting the same amount of oestrogen.

I think I might be getting these symptoms when oestrogen is at a peak.  I might still be making my own as well as my levels were 1415.  Not sure what that means but when I looked it up it was high, even for a 30 year old.

I think I'll keep a diary of exactly when in the cycle I think this happens as I don't think it's always happening.  I just want to be sure I'm not harming myself with oestrogen.  The doctors have no time at my surgery.  I thought of changing but that would involve a health check and unfortunately that is a huge trigger for past ptsd.  To be constructive, I'll keep a diary, and maybe reduce the oestrogen slightly and see how I am.

Thanks Flossieteacake
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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2022, 09:01:50 PM »

I am constantly mixing up words, forgetting words, stammering. I never ever had this problem before menopause and like you, worry I have dementia or sonething else.

From what I have read on here many of us seem to have these symptoms. I can understand your concerns. It is not nice.

There is nothing wrong with talking to yourself and reasuaring yourself is comforting. :)

Oh yep I've always talked to myself  ;D it helps me work out what I'm doing, but that's not new, lol. 

Thanks, if you also mix up word and find you never had this before menopause then that makes me feel better.   :)

I am so pleased to have helped a bit. If possible maybe you could take sips of water through out the day just to help hydrate yourself as it is so important especially as you are poorly.

I will.  More and more I'm thinking this is oestrogen though and my levels might still be too high.

I think I'm on the 3rd or 4th estradiol patch now and will soon be on my switch to estradiol / progesterone combined.  I'm always so much better on that even though I'm getting the same amount of oestrogen.

I think I might be getting these symptoms when oestrogen is at a peak.  I might still be making my own as well as my levels were 1415.  Not sure what that means but when I looked it up it was high, even for a 30 year old.

I think I'll keep a diary of exactly when in the cycle I think this happens as I don't think it's always happening.  I just want to be sure I'm not harming myself with oestrogen.  The doctors have no time at my surgery.  I thought of changing but that would involve a health check and unfortunately that is a huge trigger for past ptsd.  To be constructive, I'll keep a diary, and maybe reduce the oestrogen slightly and see how I am.

Thanks Flossieteacake

It is so sad the way some GPs make us feel dismissed. Keeping a diary is a good idea. I think it could tell you quite a lot.

You are most welcome.
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Re: Getting words mixed up
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2022, 09:55:05 PM »

How were you during your menstruating years?  Did you have cyclical symptoms?  Mine were: I would have 1 good week, the rest were hormonal.  The night B4 a bleed started I would sob, even if a period wasn't due  ::).  In the 2/3 days prior to a bleed I would be desperately thirsty, I would buy celery to stand in water simply to eat to get rid of the thirst. 

Your body needs liquids in order to survive.  How is your diet overall?  Do U have a 'bug'  because if the body craves energy and/or liquids, it will go into defence mode which can include 'flu-type symptoms.  I don't think that 1 can have too much oestrogen in the form of 'overdose'.  The levels drop off naturally at peri so HRT may balance hormones, however: if the body doesn't require it, 1 can feel ill.

In your situation I would wean off all HRT to C where my body was in terms of requirements.  Let us know how you get on.
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Re: Getting words mixed up
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2022, 01:53:39 AM »

How were you during your menstruating years?  Did you have cyclical symptoms?  Mine were: I would have 1 good week, the rest were hormonal.  The night B4 a bleed started I would sob, even if a period wasn't due  ::).  In the 2/3 days prior to a bleed I would be desperately thirsty, I would buy celery to stand in water simply to eat to get rid of the thirst. 

Your body needs liquids in order to survive.  How is your diet overall?  Do U have a 'bug'  because if the body craves energy and/or liquids, it will go into defence mode which can include 'flu-type symptoms.  I don't think that 1 can have too much oestrogen in the form of 'overdose'.  The levels drop off naturally at peri so HRT may balance hormones, however: if the body doesn't require it, 1 can feel ill.

In your situation I would wean off all HRT to C where my body was in terms of requirements.  Let us know how you get on.

I have never had the weird postural hypotension, heart fluttery feelings, that's only been since March.  Sadly in all that time it's not been possible to sort it out with the doctor, but I did have a bereavement in the middle of all that. 

Now my estradiol has been lowered to 75, the postural hypotension isn't happening to the point of being disabling, it was before.  I would get out of my car to go in a shop and realise I couldn't do it.  The feelings wouldn't be fleeting like they normally are and a general feeling my heart couldn't keep up with my movements, but also very migrainous with it.

In view of it reducing along with reduction in estradiol I think there's my answer.  My estradiol was higher than that of a 30 year old woman in ovulation. 

I'm now going to reduce further but graduall.

The dehydration seems to be a feature of the estradiol phase as well.  I'm on my third estradiol patch, one more to go and in this week I will easily dehydrate, even if I'm trying to keep fluids up. 

Once I go onto the combined patch next week I will be well hydrated, skin looks better, more energy, happier, everything flows.

I do wonder if I should be on the combined conti patch, but something in me still questions it.  Nature gave us a cycle.  If we are replacing what nature originally gave us, surely we should replace a cycle.  I know everyone has their own views on that, but it's a question I have currently.  We all have our own path through this.

Oh I get the thirst thing!  The night before my period I would drink a whole lake if I could.  It's that bad.  I asked the doctor if I could be diabetic just for a short period each month but he insisted no, that's not how it works.  I always know when my period will start because  of the amount of water I drink the night before.

Back to what you said about oestrogen and 'overdose.'  I know what you are saying because hrt is just to balance it, but it does seem my levels were extremely high for the standard hrt dose.  The doctor wants me to go back down to 50 estradiol, I believe the standard dose is 100.

I'll get it down and then do blood tests again.  Thanks CLKD.  I do have an infection atm, but agree dehydration and stress are not helping.  I also think the infection may have brought on anxiety (when I was a child my mother knew if I was 'sickening for something' by my level of anxiety, lol), so now it's getting better maybe I will calm down. 

Thanks for listening  :)
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