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getting_old

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Re: Does "man" offend you?
« Reply #45 on: November 15, 2022, 10:00:28 PM »

It seems like they are actually trying to encourage children to be gender neutral or change gender. Soon they'll be feeling guilty if they are happy as they are. How are people going to feel when they get to 25 and decide they should have stayed as maie / female instead of going through numerous surgeries etc to end up being someone they never really wanted to be?
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getting_old

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Re: Does "man" offend you?
« Reply #46 on: November 15, 2022, 10:26:55 PM »

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jaypo

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Re: Does "man" offend you?
« Reply #47 on: November 16, 2022, 08:52:07 AM »

It's crazy,how many transgender people do Drs ACTUALLY deal with but this also baffles me,a woman who decides so strongly she wants to be a man but oh no,wait,I'll keep my womb and ovaries so I can have a baby,sorry honey,you're still a woman  >:(
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holidaylover

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Re: Does "man" offend you?
« Reply #48 on: November 16, 2022, 08:53:47 AM »

getting_old,  that is absolutely nuts.  For a woman feeling so strongly that she wanted to become a man because she felt she had been born into the wrong body, then delaying the procedure just so that she can have a baby first, is disgusting, and I don't think she should not have been allowed to have a child. Signs of a very mixed up mind in my opinion. And what would become of the child's mind?  And, if my doctor referred to me as a 'pregnant person', as opposed to a 'mother' I would be offended.  It's like men and women, (who are happy to be plain and simply 'men and women') are not allowed have an opinion so as not offend the minority of people who wish to be recognised as something else. Are there parents that actually get their kids up for school in the morning and quite happily ask them what they shall be identifying as today?   I'm sick of being told this is normal now, it really isn't.  'Otherkin' - someone who identifies as non human or not entirely human, and may identify as wolves, clouds, dragons or cartoon characters'   REALLY!!  Has this to be taken seriously?  Do they still have sex education lessons in schools these days?   How on earth do they tackle that now?  It must be so confusing for young minds to get their heads round it all.  I would hate to be young again.
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Marchlove

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Re: Does "man" offend you?
« Reply #49 on: November 16, 2022, 09:45:51 AM »

Has anyone seen the article in two of the National papers about a women being thrown out of the public gallery for wearing a suffragette scarf and at Scottish trans debate.
Even though two women at the debate were wearing rainbow lanyards.
I’m off to buy some suffragette badges to give to female relatives for Christmas.
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CLKD

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Re: Does "man" offend you?
« Reply #50 on: November 16, 2022, 10:02:08 AM »

Dedicated Suffragette badges are in the antiques trade - very very expensive especially if they have Provenance.  I met a dealer years ago who had certificates for each piece that she was selling as she had traced them back to specific members of the Movement.

But colours will do.  I did see that headline but haven't read the article, it would make me so cross  >:(.  Was she white, I wonder if words would have been said to a black woman?

A few years ago a man had a baby then decided to be called a woman, he went to Court a few times to be named 'mother' on the child's birth certificate  >:(. Fortunately his plea was thrown out.

Humans need safe spaces.  End of.  When I was young I knew that I was a girl going to have periods and grow into a woman.  I was expected to have babies too but missed that through choice.  Even at 8 I didn't conform ;-)
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holidaylover

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Re: Does "man" offend you?
« Reply #51 on: November 16, 2022, 10:25:03 AM »

Marchlove, I have had a look at the article.  The one I saw showed a picture of the woman wearing the scarf but it claimed that she did not want to be identified!!  This seems strange as the lady in question in Racheal Hamilton MSP for the Scottish Borders.  She is in the Conservative Party.  She was asked to remove it or leave because 'political slogans are not allowed' and she questions who decided suffragette colours are political.
 She has also posted a picture on her twitter page of Nicola Sturgeon and a group of women draped in purple and green!!!!
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Marchlove

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Re: Does "man" offend you?
« Reply #52 on: November 16, 2022, 10:35:00 AM »

I don’t understand all the politics of it holidaylover, I’m sure a lot of it is!

I think my point is that I just feel women are being side tracked and I want to do something about it.

What though??
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holidaylover

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« Reply #53 on: November 16, 2022, 11:47:23 AM »

Marchlove, exactly.  No, I don't understand the politics in it at all, in fact I don't understand very much about politics full stop.  But what I do understand is that women should not be made to feel scared or less a person just because of their gender.  I will refuse to use a toilet (or restaurant/shop for that matter), that insists on me using 'all for one' gender neutral toilets and changing rooms.  This, in my mind has absolutely nothing to do with politics but it seems to be getting in the way.  Everywoman should be singing from the same hymn sheet.  Nicola Sturgeon's government also introduced a new policy in the summer, which set out how transgender men and non-binary people "may also experience menopause".  The Scottish Government has also placed sanitary products in male toilets for their transgender users.   If we have 'mixed' toilets I certainly would not feel comfortable changing my sanitary product whilst in the same room as a man (or whatever he/she wants to call themselves.) 
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Marchlove

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« Reply #54 on: November 16, 2022, 12:31:57 PM »

OMG that all sounds mad!

What do the general population think of all this?

Ok, small steps, going to do whatever I can x
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jaypo

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Re: Does "man" offend you?
« Reply #55 on: November 16, 2022, 12:35:54 PM »

I agree holidaylover,sturgeon needs her head testing,now literally ANYONE can say......I'm a trans woman I'm using the women's toilets,when in fact they ARE NOT a trans woman,just wait for all the reports on peeping toms.....can I say Toms?🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
I agree Marchlove,you feel you need to do something but very rarely do we actually do anything but I've written to Morrison's and told them how ridiculous they are being and you can contact your local mp x
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CLKD

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Re: Does "man" offend you?
« Reply #56 on: November 16, 2022, 12:58:58 PM »

Assaults have taken place in womens' prison areas by trans men who insisted that because they call themselves 'women', apparently they have Human Rights to be housed where women should feel safer. 
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holidaylover

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« Reply #57 on: November 16, 2022, 01:05:48 PM »

Sorry ladies I have made a big boob!! :boobs: The Lady in question was not Rachael Hamilton.  It was someone in the public gallery.  Rachael's picture in the article confused me because she is also wearing a green and purple scarf!  However, the lady has now had an apology, and rightly so. 
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CLKD

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Re: Does "man" offend you?
« Reply #58 on: November 16, 2022, 01:06:53 PM »

That's OK.  An apology is far too late though to the lady asked to leave - it's a public gallery ?  :-\
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Marchlove

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Re: Does "man" offend you?
« Reply #59 on: November 16, 2022, 02:01:59 PM »

No worries holidaylover 8)

It’s opened my eyes to how political it all is, so I’m grateful for that.
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