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[Moonshine54]

Evening lovely ladies,
What happens when we reach the max licenced dose of oestrogen  100 m patches . I started four years ago on 50 patches and then this last year up to 75mc. My symptoms again are returning.   What happens  when the 100 m patches no longer work or is it just a case of the optimal dose?
Moon xx

[sheila99]

You can have more. Your gp may not prescribe more but you can ask for a referral to a menopause clinic where they can.

[Dandelion]

Sorry to hear this, I can feel the heat.
I used to need 100mcg.
Those flushes are unbelievable until you have experienced them.

I used to look forward to meno - no periods, until it happened, it wreaked havoc.

I remember a friend touching me and saying I felt warm.

Getting flustered used to make me flush, and the sweats - if I didn't have a fan, I would have had to have my sheets washed daily.

I never went beyond 100mcg, I think it's quality of life, with regards to oestrogen.
I don't know what else it does, apart from cool you down, and take away IBS, maybe someone can educate me?

Good luck in getting on a dose that kills your symptoms, but, beware, oestrogen feeds fibroids, I have some of those little buggers, but I am now only on 25mcg, as the large amount of oestrogen made me bleed.

Don't let that put you of though, I guess there are women on big doses who didn't bleed and women on small doses who did. I bled on 50mcg.
I think I still spot on 25mcg - it's hard to tell if the pad stains are brown or pinkish brown as I can get neurotic about bleeds as I was one of the unlucky ones, no cancer though, thankfully.

[Moonshine54]

Thank you both for your quick replies. I hope i can settle at this dose. I do have a couple of fibrioda also. But hopefully mirena coil will help them x

[Smokey]

Hi

This is exactly what has happened to me I’m on the max 100 mcg patches oestrodot the docs wouldn’t prescribe any more so I asked to be referred to meno clinic in December . I was getting really bad anxiety and hot all the time even though I’m usually cold. I phoned go again recently and was told although it was discussed that I was to be referred it wasn’t actually done as you can imagine I was fuming so I took it into. MY own hands and as I had plenty of oestrogel left from previous prescriptions I added 1/2 a pump and guess what 24 hrs later my anxiety disappeared.

I have since been in contact with doctors I had to fill out what they call an e consult online form to start the referral all over again, as eventually I will run out of gel and I also get another symptom which is unnervingly I am aware of my breathing I know this sounds silly but you don’t notice this normally do you unless your excercising I can breathe ok but I feel like I’m holding my breath if that makes sense.

Do you think you need more oestrogen ?


Smokey (Ann)

[Dandelion]

Thank you both for your quick replies. I hope i can settle at this dose. I do have a couple of fibrioda also. But hopefully mirena coil will help them x

Hello
My GP says oestrogen feeds fibroids, however mine are small and I was on 100mcg - I cannot remember for how long, I am sorry.

[Smokey]

Hi Dandilion

Yes that is true however I have one small fibroid and it hasn’t grown and I’ve been on hrt for ten years I believe the mire a coil stops them from growing.

Smokey (Ann)

[Jennijx]

I am under a private menopause consultant who has gradually upped my estrogen to 200mg patches. And it has made the world of difference to me. I was told that often women who go through an early menopause (me) need more estrogen. Hopefully your body won't need such a dramatic dose but it sounds like your dosage isn't quite right yet 

[laszla]

Jennijx, I'm heartened to see that one can go up to 200 mg patches - which I think would be equivalent to 8 pumps of estrogel. I've reached the NHS max dose of 4 pumps and am still not absorbing so am planning to increase so it's great to hear that that can make a big difference

[Jennijx]

Honestly I haven't felt this good in years. There is hope!xx

[Nas]

Jennijx, what do you take for progesterone ( or do you not?)

Thanks x

[laszla]

Honestly I haven't felt this good in years. There is hope!xx

So glad to hear x

[Jennijx]

Utrogestran tablets -  continuously so I don't have a bleed

[Nas]

And 100mg utrogestan controls 200mg oestrogen? Wow, I can’t even get the utrogestan to control 50mg without bleeding

[Dandelion]

Hi Dandilion

Yes that is true however I have one small fibroid and it hasn’t grown and I’ve been on hrt for ten years I believe the mire a coil stops them from growing.

Smokey (Ann)

I read that progesterone helps fibroids.
I have to stay on utrogestan as I cannot alter my prog dose, it's cross tolerant to the valium I am dependent on, which my psychiatrist prescribes.
Ladies who have been valium dependent, get kicked in the pants if they mess around with progesterone levels.
I would rather use the natural than synthetic also.