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Flossieteacake

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VA pain
« on: November 27, 2021, 09:09:29 AM »

I am in so much pain due to vaginal atrophy. I took vagifem every day for one month but had to switch to ovestin as vagfiem made my IBS worse. I have been on ovestin for just over three weeks. I use Yes VM and Sylk as well as taking ibrophren 3 times a day. I am in so much pain. Is there anything else I can do?
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CLKD

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Re: VA pain
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2021, 09:41:20 AM »

I have had IBS for years and 'ovestin' isn't affecting my bowels.  3 weeks is early.  MayB put an extra dose up in an afternoon, I had to do that this week. 

However: when I was menstruating regularly I would become constipated a few days prior to a bleed.  10 mins. B4 a bleed began, I would get 'the runs', even if a period wasn't due.

How is your own cycle?  It may be that if you continue to have periods they may be contributing to any slow transit/the runs.

What kind of pain?  How often do you use the Sylk etc.?   Have you tried Paracetamol in between taking the Ibrophren?
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Dierdre

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Re: VA pain
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2021, 09:54:00 AM »

Its still early days,  it can take a while to replace the estrogen that you have lost over a long period of time.  You could try using the Vagifem again but just 2 or 3 times a week as well as using Ovestin everyday internally and externally. YES products are good but I couldnt use the oil based one just the water based and Silk irritated me also.  Dont use too many products together, try one at a time until you're sure its ok and not at the same time as the Ovestin. Wash in water only or try Cetraben instead of soap. I dont wash my pants in washpowder or conditioer as this makes me sore and I find fragrance free panty liners act as a soft protective pad.
If the skin is really raw ask for some Dermovate cream to help heal while waiting for the estrogen to work. I use this if I have a flare up and it helped in the early days when I was so sore everything I applied just burned.
 Be patient it will start to work it just takes a while, you will notice a few good days mixed in with the bad and then the bad days will become less.
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Flossieteacake

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Re: VA pain
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2021, 10:07:30 AM »

I have had IBS for years and 'ovestin' isn't affecting my bowels.  3 weeks is early.  MayB put an extra dose up in an afternoon, I had to do that this week. 

However: when I was menstruating regularly I would become constipated a few days prior to a bleed.  10 mins. B4 a bleed began, I would get 'the runs', even if a period wasn't due.

How is your own cycle?  It may be that if you continue to have periods they may be contributing to any slow transit/the runs.

What kind of pain?  How often do you use the Sylk etc.?   Have you tried Paracetamol in between taking the Ibrophren?

Thank you for replying. Ovestin does not affect my IBS which is why I am still able to take it. I do not have a cycle as I do not have periods. The pain is shooting pains, aching, a constant need to empty my bladder. I have not thought of taking paracetamol too. I use sylk and Yes about 3 or 4 times a day.
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Flossieteacake

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Re: VA pain
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2021, 10:09:50 AM »

Its still early days,  it can take a while to replace the estrogen that you have lost over a long period of time.  You could try using the Vagifem again but just 2 or 3 times a week as well as using Ovestin everyday internally and externally. YES products are good but I couldnt use the oil based one just the water based and Silk irritated me also.  Dont use too many products together, try one at a time until you're sure its ok and not at the same time as the Ovestin. Wash in water only or try Cetraben instead of soap. I dont wash my pants in washpowder or conditioer as this makes me sore and I find fragrance free panty liners act as a soft protective pad.
If the skin is really raw ask for some Dermovate cream to help heal while waiting for the estrogen to work. I use this if I have a flare up and it helped in the early days when I was so sore everything I applied just burned.
 Be patient it will start to work it just takes a while, you will notice a few good days mixed in with the bad and then the bad days will become less.

Thank you for replying and all the tips. I am using unscented panty liners too. I look forward to the bad days becoming less.  :)
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Gracie

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Re: VA pain
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2021, 10:23:41 AM »

Carry on with what you are doing, I am 15 weeks into using Vagifem and I use Sylk mosturiser, I am only beginning to see improvement. It takes a long time and needs patience. Take paracetamol as mentioned above alongside the ibuprofen. I found one of those heated pads you use for muscle pain very relieving.
 You will get there eventually :)
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Flossieteacake

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Re: VA pain
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2021, 10:35:12 AM »

Carry on with what you are doing, I am 15 weeks into using Vagifem and I use Sylk mosturiser, I am only beginning to see improvement. It takes a long time and needs patience. Take paracetamol as mentioned above alongside the ibuprofen. I found one of those heated pads you use for muscle pain very relieving.
 You will get there eventually :)

Thank you for your kind words. I find my hot water bottle very helpful. I am glad you are seeing signs of improvement.
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Dierdre

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Re: VA pain
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2021, 10:45:17 AM »

Have you been examined? Severe atrophy and oestrogen deficiency caused my bladder prolapse which caused shooting pains and constant aching dragging down feeling along with frequent trips to the loo. After a year of local estrogens and physio it was gradually rectified. Grade 1 prolapse is not always noticeable externally but still causes discomfort internally.
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Flossieteacake

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Re: VA pain
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2021, 10:50:07 AM »

Have you been examined? Severe atrophy and oestrogen deficiency caused my bladder prolapse which caused shooting pains and constant aching dragging down feeling along with frequent trips to the loo. After a year of local estrogens and physio it was gradually rectified. Grade 1 prolapse is not always noticeable externally but still causes discomfort internally.

I have not. Before starting treatment my skin was very shrunken but it is almost back to normal now. I do not feel a dragging pain. Thank you for suggesting this.
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Re: VA pain
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2021, 11:59:50 AM »

It can be a while B4 the vaginal walls are plumped up enough to feel better.  Keep up with the regime that works for you.  Make a note of which pain relief helps and when you take it.  Let us know how you get on. 
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Flossieteacake

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Re: VA pain
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2021, 12:31:47 PM »

It can be a while B4 the vaginal walls are plumped up enough to feel better.  Keep up with the regime that works for you.  Make a note of which pain relief helps and when you take it.  Let us know how you get on.

Thank you for your support. :)
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Re: VA pain
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2021, 02:06:01 PM »

U R welcome. 
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Whatsupwiththis

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Re: VA pain
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2021, 02:10:57 PM »

Hi Flossie...as many of the ladies mentioned, it takes  longer time so be patient.  You will get there.  Took me almost a full daily Vagifem use to feel 90% comfortable.  Hang in. 
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Flossieteacake

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Re: VA pain
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2021, 02:57:43 PM »

Hi Flossie...as many of the ladies mentioned, it takes  longer time so be patient.  You will get there.  Took me almost a full daily Vagifem use to feel 90% comfortable.  Hang in.

Thank you so much. That has made me feel more hopeful.  :)
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Shellyjayne

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Re: VA pain
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2021, 09:07:08 AM »

My va was terrible and i had a  weird burning and creepy sensation in ureatha. Was on the usual vagifem dose of initial 14 days and then twice weekly. Did this for about two months. This did not work, until gynaecologist said to use for everyday for six months and then go to twice a week. I only got as far as six weeks Daily and all symptoms stopped, so now on twice a week and symptom free. It does work and it does take time, but for a lot of woman the initial load up time is inadequate (2 weeks).
Maybe you need a bit longer initial load up. It will work, just takes time.
Good luck
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