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[Gilla999]

That is strange on the mini pill not helping your PMT if it seems like it's the Prog you need - did you have breaks on it or take it right through? I definitely feel that a tailored approach is the way to go. It's rubbish having to pay out so much money but an off the shelf solution doesn't seem to do the trick and at least if you can have proper bloods you'll not be flying so blind. When do you think you'll stop taking the Micro / see someone from Marian Gluck?

Yes I agree on the Utro. Long sequence HRT can be taking Utro only once every 3 months so I'm fine from a health POV (many women take it around every 6 weeks as they don't like feel good on it so want more of the good days). So I agree, I'm going to wait till either I'm symptomatic, I've ovulated (I've bought some tests), or if I miss it entirely and have a period without knowing it's coming (highly unlikely) I'll wait till the next cycle to take it. I can't face rocking the boat at the moment. Worst case scenario and I can't get on with the Utro at all after a few months then I'll try the Mirena coil. Or the compounded route!

Next week we get to see a physiotherapist that specialises in pelvic floor etc. I think that's it then... not sure what the remaining 5 weeks consist of!

Interesting that no one has replied!! I very much doubt it's because people aren't trying it... more that they're happy and not on the forum! I remember reading about Oprah Winfrey saying how much success she'd had via that route. xx

[CrispyChick]

In that case then I'd defo wait to start the utro, esp if you are feeling so good. You must defo need the top up estrogen then.

Yes, I do wonder about the mini pill. Used to take it fine. I do note they don't recommend it if you have pms, so perhaps it's just too potent and synthetic 🤷‍♀️

I won't do anything until after my second covid jab. So another 10 days at least. Will reassess then. I'll prob try eloine... I'll know pretty quickly. Then come off everything, leave it 2 months then make appointment I guess. The months on nothing are a daunting prospect...

Very fatigued avd foggy again today. Pretty bad, but these are my better symptoms... Says a lot. 

[Gilla999]

Just thought I'd check in as it's been one month now since starting Lenzetto. And it's been a fantastic month really - no "episodes" except for one which was related to tapering my anti depressant and nothing to do with hormones. However I am aware that I've not ovulated yet (I'm testing every morning) so therefore haven't been in my "episodic" time. In the last two weeks my boobs have started doing their estrogen-dominance thing, so my own estrogen is definitely rising - I would expect I ovulate at some point soon but who knows. What's also interesting to me is that I've not had a single night sweat during this time either - completely back to normal - which just reinforces my knowledge that the two things (insomnia episodes and night sweats) go hand in hand, and the insomnia isn't down to some other thing - psychological or whatever.

Aside from the swollen boobs in the last couple of weeks I've had no side effects at all from Lenzetto and find it really convenient. And my boobs are nowhere near as bad as they were either when I was on Yasmin.

I'm waiting until I've ovulated before I start taking the Utrogestan - not looking forward to that, but will be interesting to see how it goes.

Crispy, how's things for you? x

[Scampidoodle]

Great news Gilla, I’m glad lenzetto is suiting you and it does prove your symptoms are indeed tied to something hormonal.

Crispy, sorry things are foggy. Let us know how you get on with Eloine. It’s still on the table for me I just can’t start any hormones yet due to the histamine mast cell issue I need to get level first. Since reducing my histamine it’s clear I have terrible hormonal issues like pmdd. I get things like ravenous food cravings and sleep on and off in the week prior to period but I can cope, the worst is deep deep depressive episodes just like pmdd really. Then it lifts.

So can’t carry on with that anyway! Xx

[CrispyChick]

Morning ladies.

Gilla - things sound so much better for you. That is amazing. So clearly extra estrogen is needed in your case. I'm assuming the next part of the journey is getting on with the prog...? And seeing how you are after ovulation. Although, I'm wondering if you are still producing plenty estrogen yourself, avd topping up - might u stop ovulation??? Might be an added bonus!?

Scampi, hope you can get settled with your histamine to enable you to try something hormonal.

I'm still plodding along. Not sure what to think really. My mood is OK. I think I can be a bit impatient, but that's prob me anyway...and I do have two boys and a husband testing my limits!!!!

I'm getting some weird things, far too often for my liking. But not guaranteed to be hormonal. Achy back and fatigue... Seems like every few weeks.

But then, when I read and comment on other threads, I realise the good stuff. No headaches. Dizziness is much less frequent. Nausea much much milder, if at all most of the time. Its just I don't feel amazing either. And the regular fatigue is very hard.

I said I'd wait until after my second covid jab before changing. That's me had it, so I think I'll use the next pack of microgynon as a monitor...

This is probably the best I've been in a long time, but like I say, I'm far from amazing and seem to keep feeling run down with fatigue and achy back... I've come this far, I'm not going to rush...

[Gilla999]

Well it definitely sounds like there has been some improvement for sure Crispy! Do you think the fatigue could be down to anything else? Or are you pretty certain it's the Pill?

[CrispyChick]

Gilla, I've no idea if it's the pill... Or just me 🤣🤣. That's why I've not jumped. This week it's fatigue with a really achy back each day. I seem to get the achy back every month (it was blamed on the covid jab a few months back).

I might take a 4 day break and see if it goes...

What's next did u??? X

[Gilla999]

Even if it is "just you" that doesn't mean it's not real or valid - so much stuff can affect your energy, whether it's diet or adrenals or all sorts!

For me I'm just waiting here like a sitting duck until I ovulate (I'm testing every morning) and once I see that happen will start to take the Utro and hope beyond hope that it prevents my symptoms - although I do need to accept it might not happen in the first cycle. Until then I'm just enjoying being a normal human being again with no night sweats and no insomnia!!

Side note: I stopped taking the Pill 5 weeks ago and I still haven't ovulated!

[CrispyChick]

I do wonder if the extra estrogen might stop ovulation...?

I always ovulate early, like day 10 (or certainly did laterally - bad pain do I always knew) but when I tried femoston 1/10, I didn't ovulate.

If it does stop ovulation, I'm guessing that  would be a bonus? As you'd never tip into the second half...? Although that should be the case with the pill...

[Gilla999]

I hadn't thought of that Crispy! If it does, it would definitely be a tremendous bonus for the reasons you say, but I suspect it's just going to take a while for my own hormones to kick back in after stopping the Pill. I remember that I initially had 4 good weeks on Zoely and then everything started to go haywire.

The Pill might have prevented ovulation but for some reason it also caused huge erratic fluctuations in my hormones (as proved by my Rhythm results) which in turn caused me to be highly symptomatic. Time will tell what happens with Lenzetto!

Have you had your cortisol levels tested recently? They can massively effect energy levels xx

[CrispyChick]

It is interesting gilla, that your bloods reflected volatile fluctuations whilst on the pill. It's all so odd.

I know my hormones are flatter as no headaches or pmt. But I'm still symptomatic in terms of woozy and foggy. Had a, lot of different symptims over the last few months, but I thi k I've got them all under control:

Nose pressure - antihistamines and steroid spray
Indigestion - tablets

Just leaves behind this woozy feeling and fatigue. The woozy feeling is lower than I had pre pill... But still horrible. I can never just get better.

I'm kinda wonderibg if this will be as, good as it gets until my hormones drop (prob bringing a full new set of symptoms).

I am open to trying eloine. Might do that next month. But the thought of stopping and going bsck to migraines and severe pmt to allow me to see a BHRT specialist, is horrific. Imagine if it did t work 

You still waiting ovulation?

[Gilla999]

What indigestion tablets are you taking Crispy? x

[CrispyChick]

I'm on famotidine. Was on ranitidine last year, which were great, but they had a health scare so no longer available.

I've already got down to a tiny dose a, week in... So will come off again until another flair. Gp would rather I was on ppi... Not sure why?

[Gilla999]

Ah ok, I don't know those ones. The reason I asked is that I have a history of acid reflux too - was diagnosed with a hiatus hernia at 24! It went away for years and years and then reappeared in 2020 after I took a couple of doses of Naproxen - it was so bad! I was prescribed omeprazole but had to stop taking it as it made me .... super woozy and fatigued... just a really yucky fatigue and feeling all the time. I was then prescribed esomeprazole which was marginally better, and it cleared up after a few weeks so I stopped taking it. Just thought I'd mention it in case your anti reflux meds could be contributing to what you're feeling (I think they're known side effects).

Still awaiting ovulation and as it doesn't look like it wants to arrive, I've decided to start taking my Utro after next weekend anyway (I've got a couple of family dates I don't want to disrupt).

[CrispyChick]

Interesting about the omeprazole Gilla. I have had that before and also lanzaprazole. I liked lanxaprazole first time, but couldn't get on with either 2 years ago, so consultant suggested ranitidine. Next consultant told me to get off them all... So I did!

I'm pretty sure nowadays it's hormonal flairs. The famotidine works really quickly. GPS seem to prefer PPIs. Not sure why, and I think they're more long term.

If u need any again, try the famotidine?

I dont think it's the cause of the fatigue and woozy... I'm on a tiny dose now. But time will tell.

My head/nose flared yesterday. Hence me taking a 4 day break. Be interesting to see if my energy picks up. 12 hours late with pill and I can already feel the scratchy tummy etc.... Crazy. I'll do 4 days then restart microgynon to see how it goes...

Maybe I need more regular breaks... It feels like the bad side affects of the progesterone maybe build up 🤷‍♀️

Are u still feeling great? So, what are u expecting when u start the utrogestan??? How long do u take it? 10 days?

I think you're right. If you're feeling good, enjoy this week, then give it a try...keep an open mind. You're feeling better than u have done - no reason why u shouldn't continue to do so...