I didnt know natural progesterone is a pollutant and natural oestrogen.
I can't change progestin as I will go nuts due to the alteration to my GABA, the levonorgestrel affect on allo.
They're not. You have said the word 'pollute'. I was just quoting you. 'Also, I don't want to pollute the environment with synthetics, they would alter my GABA and effectively derail it.' By the way, Utrogestan and estradiol in patches and gels are not derived from plants, as many people believe, all hormones are now produced by microorganisms, using estrone obtained from China (so who knows where it came from). They're all semi-synthetic.
What do you mean by 'derail' GABA? Were you 'nuts' before you took Utrogestan?
I didn't say you have to increase the oral dose... I said continue to take Utro 100 mg.
You should be concerned with your mental health and this continuous bleeding. By taking synthetic progestins you won't be damaging aquatic life beyond what's already happening...
Yes, scheduled bleed is normal on sequential Utro, but you've said you had 'no bleed', that's why I've asked.
I'm sorry you had so many issues, you clearly need medication besides HRT, your symptoms are not just from hormonal imbalance, but the bleeding probably is, that's what I'm trying to address here, since this is your current concern.
Thanks for the links!
I guess you have already decided that:
1. you can't change your Utro regime (which by the way is very unusual), because you are convinced (although not even neuroscientists can vouch for it) that any change will affect your GABA receptors and you will have horrible symptoms;
2. you hope that the bleeding will stop on its own;
3. you won't be going to the doctors.
So how can anyone here (or on the benzo forum) help you?
Sorry for being thick, but I can't understand what do you expect?
Hi Uptick and thanks for your reply
Sorry I forgot to mention to you, my breasts have been tender while I have been bleeding like they used to be when I was menstrusting pre menopause and pre peri. Should have said that earlier.
I am sorry I struggle with words, I have an autism assessment booked on 13th October to see if I am autistic.
I meant that excreted progestins cause problems with aquatic life. I am not sure if micronised progesterone does too.
Swapping my utrogestan for a synthetic would send me nuts because it would alter my gaba, especially levonorgestrel due to its effect on progesterones metabolite alloprnanolone.
By the way, Utrogestan and estradiol in patches and gels are not derived from plants, as many people believe, all hormones are now produced by microorganisms, using estrone obtained from China (so who knows where it came from). They're all semi-synthetic.
So we are being lied to?
Why are they called bio identical if they are semi-synthetic?
Where can I find info on this, info I can understand?
Everything seems to come from China, look at coronavirus.
By 'derail' GABA? I mean how mental I went on there 12 days I was not taking the oral 200mg utro when addicted to valium. Rages etc. The change in my mental health when I started taking it daily was noted by my psych nurse who said I was more stable.
I didn't say you have to increase the oral dose... I said continue to take Utro 100 mg.
I will continue to take the oral utro, but that was not enough, that's what started the bleeds, and that was why the vaginal 100mg was added.
You should be concerned with your mental health and this continuous bleeding. By taking synthetic progestins you won't be damaging aquatic life beyond what's already happening...
I am concerned with my mental health but I cannot remove the non medical serious stressors that are affecting it.
I do want the bleeding to stop but I cannot alter the progesterone, as it will derail GABA and send me mental with rages as explained above. I wonder if I should reduce the gel from 50mcg to 25mcg I wont do this right now.
Yes, scheduled bleed is normal on sequential Utro, but you've said you had 'no bleed', that's why I've asked.
Yeah I was normally bleeding on sequential Utro back in peri, I only had no bleed for the first six months when I started taking the utro 100mg oral daily, then random bleeds after that. Sorry if I Was unclear.
I'm sorry you had so many issues, you clearly need medication besides HRT, your symptoms are not just from hormonal imbalance, but the bleeding probably is, that's what I'm trying to address here, since this is your current concern.
What type of medication? I have tried all different sorts of antidepressants even antipsychotics at low dose for anxiety, psych knows I am not psychotic, they all had bad effects.
You are welcome about the links, when you have had chance I would love to know what you think.
It's not that I am being stubborn, I cannot change utro regime because of the allopregnanalone metabolite being cross tolerant with valium and sending me into rages and going mental.
Also the links have information in them about horrible symptoms from women. The first post and other posts are from a knowledgeable woman.
I knew an American woman who was on 13mg prescribed bio identical progesterone cream, she reduced it to 11mg. She had been benzodiazepine dependent. She messaged me, then got incapacitated after she reduced it, so ill, she couldn't even message me. Other women on the benzo forum have had horrible experiences with progesterone.
I did have horrible rage meltdowns when addicted to valium on the sequential regime, these rages came when I was not taking the utrogestan, so I have experienced them myself and they are a safety risk, broken belongings, black and blue face, cut head through head butting things.
I just want the bleeding to go away, once its gone for more than a few months I will see the doctor.
The problem is too complex to go to the doctors, even if I write a bullet pointed note, it will be too long for them to read, they have commented before when I took long notes in about other issues.
If I knew how people could help me I would know what help I need and would ask for it, I don't mean to sound rude, just dunno how to word that sentence.
You are not thick, far from it. I look forward to hearing from you after reading the links.
I will be happy to provide any more information that you may require.