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[CLKD]

When I feel hung over I take the medication every other day to see if that feeling eases.  If it's slow release then it will be OK. 

Have you tried Rescue Remedy mouth spray ?  Boots etc. sell it.  I have used it and never thought whether it would work, didnt' let my brain go that far - would spray and Get On!

   been there, survived ;-)

[Shell babes]

Thanks for the advice.  Yes, I will get some rescue remedy.  I have just spoke to the GP who has prescribed 40mg Propanalol instead of 80mg to see how I go. He also prescribed some Zopiclone to try to get me back into a sleep routine.  I am just so tired and stressing about sleep.

[CLKD]

Did he suggest taking both?  U won't know what might be working otherwise. 

Personally I would get the sleep sorted - take it for 3 nights - then start the 40mg at the weekend.  I found this regime worked well for me in the 1990s.  I knew that I couldn't have sleeping tablets regularly so sleep was important which gave me relief.

Let us know how you get on.  Once I found that I could sleep I was less anxious about not sleeping if that makes sense?  If I missed a night it didn't matter as much.

[Shell babes]

Yes, I?ll do what you have advised, it makes sense. Why is it so difficult to sleep?  I have been messaging GRL as her situation is similar to mine. She suggested that the mirena coil may be contributing to the depression and dread. This is such a minefield. I originally took Provera but was progesterone oral intolerant and was in a bad way for 3 months (felt suicidal) hence the mirena. I don't know if I have done the wrong thing in getting the mirena coil ..... I don't know what is causing what. I am on patches Estradot 75 but GRL says I may not be absorbing and to try the gel. I did try 3 pumps of gel a while back but I became very jittery and couldn't sleep so went back to the patches. I tried 100 Estradot but again became jittery so back down to 75 again. My blood test for oestrogen was ?high normal? on two occasions.

[Shell babes]

How did you manage sleep in the end without the sleeping tablets?

[CLKD]

3 may be too many pumps all at once?   The body doesn't get where it is suddenly, so it takes a while for things to adjust?

How long do you give the medication to work?  It's not easy to wait for results but sometimes we need to give it time to work 

Do you keep a diary, I can't remember. 

Any number of reasons for us not to sleep easily and it can become a self fulfilling situation.  I was in a very stressful job for 8 years then found it hard to get good sleep so the GP gave me 5 tablets.  3 nights with a tablet and 2 left over.  I knew that the tablets gave release.  As does relaxation therapy and now I can have a 'bad' night without worrying too much.  I read. Usually.

[Shell babes]

I couldn't cope with 3 pumps gel or 100 Estradot so I couldn't wait any longer and reverted back to Estradot 75 within the day. It felt like it made me worse. I would have given both longer if I could but it felt unmanageable.....

After taking the sleeping tablets for 3 nights, how did you get on with night 4 without the tablet in terms of rebound insomnia?

[Shell babes]

I have had the mirena coil for 6 weeks so maybe I need to give it more time ...?

[CLKD]

Put 'mirena coil' into the search box, I think there are several threads about how others have coped.  Make notes ;-)

[Shell babes]

Ok will do. Last question for the day (I promise!) - how did you manage on night 4 with no sleeping tablet in terms of rebound insomnia? After taking the sleep tablets for 3 nights. ...?

[CLKD]

Slept.  Knowing that I had 2 more sleeping tablets if necessary.  It was weeks B4 I required them. 

[Shell babes]

Thanks. I?ll have to think along the same lines instead of panicking that they are addictive.

[CLKD]

They can be addictive but are designed for specific purposes.

Once I accepted that I will have broken nights I was able to relax more.  It took practice. It took acceptance.  The thing is not to grab a tablet if you don't drop off.  Use a tablet 2/3 nights then see what happens the next few nights. 

[Shell babes]

Thanks for your advice, it means a lot at this lonely time. I?ll let you know how I get on. I am usually a composed, laid back and relaxed person but peri has caused me to fall apart and not recognise myself.

[CLKD]

Happens to the Best!