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[CLKD]

I miss our garden centres 

Jeepers - look on it as cheaper than going to the gym: lift up the bags of groceries, wipe with large rounded movements, leave to air dry, skip round the kitchen 

[littleminnie]

Hi ladies,

Just looking for a little reassurance.  I can't remember if I washed my hands when I came back from shopping today, so am panicking. (shakes fist at OCD).  I did wear surgical type gloves whilst out, and started wiping down shopping as soon as I got in with bleach solution, on a cloth.  I didn't wear gloves for this, so do you think the bleach water would have got rid of anything on my hands?  I was so stressed about the wiping down (I am shopping for 3 people, it takes me ages, and I am still working full time)

I would say that is definitely enough Jeepers.

Sorry to be so needy

Jeepers xx

[CLKD]

....... and not needy at all, if you don't ask you don't get!

[Hurdity]

The figures are flawed Stella,always have been,people have died from say cancer or heart problems but because they tested positive for covid,that's included in the daily death updates

It's very complex jaypo. I looked at the gyuuidelines for death certification. The thing is if it is an elderly person who has died with symptoms suggesting CV19 then this could well have hastened the death. There is a whole hierarchy of scenarios to look at from what I remember. It is far far more likely that the figures from deaths outside hospital due to or hastened by CV19 have been underestimated I think. The number of excess deaths where CV19 not mentioned compared to 5 year average is huge. Which reminds me the weekly data are due out from ONS today. This is the week when the carehome deaths will be most shocking - when they were first being reported in large numbers two weeks ago.

Hurdity x

[CLKD]

Did we have C-19 12 months ago let alone 5 years ago 

C-19 must not be seen as the Cause of Death! it skews the figures.  Unless a person goes to hospital with symptoms of C-19 and dies ........ if they are already in hospital and catch it that's different and there should be Questions Asked.  If people go into hospital and die of other conditions, C-19 should not be on the Cert unless they have tested positive.

[CLKD]

The NHS said yesterday that it isn't reliable enough and may cause extra stress!   Why would anyone, why not wait until correct testing is available  .

Can say that 'cos my mobile is ancient  but nope, wouldn't bother.  Not that interested in finding out as I haven't had symptoms - but when the 'carrier' test arrives, I may join the queue.

Tnx jaypo

[Sparrow]

I'm always suspicious of 'Tracking Apps'.  Can you trust who is doing the tracking??

[CLKD]

Boris?

[Two hoots]

My health authority published the number of hospital deaths for the first time yesterday. The area is three big counties, with only a few towns, mainly rural villages. I was surprised the number of only five was so low but at the same time relieved.

[jillydoll]

Have you heard about the virus attacking children?
They think it's something to do with the corona virus, but they don't know for sure yet.
Some have been admitted to intensive care, and some have sadly died. 😢

[Salad]

Have you heard about the virus attacking children?
They think it's something to do with the corona virus, but they don't know for sure yet.
Some have been admitted to intensive care, and some have sadly died. 😢

Just reading about this now   
This virus seems to mutate and affect people in such different ways now - it's hard to feel confident in lockdown being lifted.

[CLKD]

Toxic Shock syndrome. 

If the records were accurate an App wouldn't be required.  People will become obsessed and more stressed .........

[Taz2]

My health authority published the number of hospital deaths for the first time yesterday. The area is three big counties, with only a few towns, mainly rural villages. I was surprised the number of only five was so low but at the same time relieved.

We've had 55 deaths in our hospital and a total of 114 over the three hospitals run by the trust.

Taz x

[Two hoots]

After seeing the shocking pictures of temporary morgues in other countries I am relieved to read most areas have low rates even though care home figures are excluded.  I dont know how funeral homes are coping, if there is a delay in funerals, any bereavement at this time must be awful.
 

[CLKD]

At this time of year, a delay in funerals is usual due to season 'flu.  My family in Luton had to wait 3 weeks a few years ago ...... there's a mix of ethnicity too which makes a difference.  Half an hour in the crem., a real production line