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Sparrow

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #105 on: February 06, 2020, 04:43:22 PM »

EW, I think you were concerned but I don't remember anyone else being.

Don't understand your last point.  People react irrationally by the risk being exaggerated. 
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Sparrow

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #106 on: February 06, 2020, 04:59:25 PM »

The third infected person is not a student or staff member of Brighton University.  BBC news.
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ElkWarning

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #107 on: February 06, 2020, 05:04:46 PM »

Yes, I was the person who was concerned about Brighton, and I gave reasons for those concerns. These were dismissed. Now we have a case. Let's see what happens next.

Sorry, what are you saying about irrational exaggeration, because it feels as if you've repeatedly directed comments at me.
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Sparrow

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #108 on: February 06, 2020, 05:17:47 PM »

I was actually referring to the news media. I only referred it to you because you questioned the racist reaction, point. 
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CLKD

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #109 on: February 06, 2020, 06:59:05 PM »

There has been reported verbal attacks in China Town.  When there's a Country involved in an incident, it often happens.  Fear breeds fear breeds anger ...........

As long as the NHS has bother, forgotten the word  >:( infection control - and these issues aren't suddenly arrived at, there will be protocols somewhere in the background as there are for Major Accidents [anything involving more than 22 people], with committees and groups discussing the whys/where fores as to how to move forwards to protect the public.  As there are with the normal 'flu expectations.  i.e. 'flu jabs -

Now people are stuck on cruise liners but those affected are being moved  :-\ .......... awful for those who booked internal cabins without any windows, relying on air con which could of course, spread viruses etc.  ::)
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Pennyfarthing

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #110 on: February 06, 2020, 07:17:19 PM »

I don't think they should allow anybody from China into the UK until this is sorted.

Looks like they finally read my post!! 😂😂
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CLKD

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #111 on: February 06, 2020, 07:27:48 PM »

But the Chinese are already here .......... it does show how many millions travel every day across the World! 
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milly

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #112 on: February 06, 2020, 07:29:28 PM »

Does anyone else find it odd that they are quickly building these new hospitals if numbers are what they are saying they are? Not many infected or died compared to the whole Chinese population. ,Does  this reaction seems out of proportion, or are the figures just totally totally wrong, and they are in truth much much higher ?
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CLKD

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #113 on: February 06, 2020, 07:32:40 PM »

I think that it will be years B4 the truth comes out.  I think the Chinese build where and when they like to anyway this happens to be in the public domain.  Now they are asking for more masks - don't they be made in China ;-)

Most countries have planning laws which prevent the sudden building over large areas ....... even when required.  Also in the UK there are Wards that were closed years ago that could be re-opened. 
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Sparrow

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #114 on: February 06, 2020, 08:20:15 PM »

Third person is a middle aged man who has recently been to Singapore.
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CLKD

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #115 on: February 06, 2020, 09:16:19 PM »

Stay out of the way of middle aged men?

Make sure that people don't cough at you.  Usually it's sneezes that spread diseases  ::)
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ElkWarning

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #116 on: February 07, 2020, 09:24:44 AM »

Pleased to see the gvt have now changed their advice, and anyone who has travelled from specified countries is to self isolate and call 111 if they have symptoms.  While it's better late than never, on a personal note of concern, this means I've come into direct contact with two people who have (hopefully) colds, one just back from Hong Kong, one just back from Taiwan, both of whom are now seeking advice from 111 - especially as they've also been around 100s of students and staff.  And by direct contact, I mean sat down and ate food with, shared a work kitchen / bathroom with.

It's interesting that it's the Chinese gvt, whose economy stands to be the most affected, who are saying '[There] should be no panic, no overreaction'.  Of course they don't want special measures in place.  They're actively campaigning against them, bringing huge amounts of pressure to bear on WHO.  At the point a gvt prosecutes one of its own doctors for blowing the whistle on a a public health emergency (as it did in December, tragically that doctor is now dead from the very virus he was trying to alert the authorities to), I do tend to feel as if there's something of a cover up and I'm not inclined to believe a word they then go on to say on the matter.  I certainly don't want to follow their advice.

Re: deadliness.  Yeah, well, just because it's people with pre-existing conditions who it's most likely to be fatal to (yes, I have a problem with my lungs), that doesn't mean all the healthies should think it's fine as a method of 'natural selection'.  And there are also the environmental factors to consider.  Of course, those of us living and working in densely populated urban areas are at more risk.
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CLKD

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #117 on: February 07, 2020, 09:38:38 AM »

Morning.  Notably it's the Chinese Ambassador to London who is the mouth piece for his Government but he could be spouting his own words .

How would this have been handled without social media involvement?  Locally?   Every GP surgery giving out advice consistent with the density of population?  How does hand washing impact/not?

If every person that sneezes then rings 111 the system will crash.  What is the actually diagnosis and how long B4 1 finds out?  We sneeze several times a day but not every day.  I have allergic rhinitis which I believe has protected me from many Germs over the years as my nose is often blocked, itchy and snuffly.

Then the issue of self isolating, ringing 111 then being taken elsewhere?  In China 1 person is being allowed out to shop every other day .... and shelves are, understandably, emptying quickly.
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ElkWarning

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #118 on: February 07, 2020, 03:02:06 PM »

Amnesty have now come out against the way this has been handled. Punishments and cover ups. Absolutely terrible. Human rights abuses. All in an effort to play it down and protect the economy.

One of me team is from Wuhan. She was just telling me that her parents neighbour died in horrible conditions. It's all so upsetting. At least now it's being acknowledged and we have support in place for all those affected.

Re: social media, that's right, CLKD, if this is controlled you end up with lack of transparency and information. The authorities relied heavily on accusing anyone who tried to speak out as scaremongering.

Oh, and that person from Brighton, it would seem the entire conference was run by a Brighton based company - who obviously had no concept of risk management for any of the delegates, really not ok to put people in potentially life threatening situations.
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CLKD

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #119 on: February 07, 2020, 03:11:47 PM »

I spoke with someone from Hong Kong earlier, he's lived here for years++ and he says that the Chinese are covering up a lot of numbers of those diagnosed and those who died.

We trade with China  :-\ ........ but if this type of abuse happens in countries that we don't have deals with, 'we' shout loudly about how wrong it is! 
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