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[da66]

This whole fandango is making my blood boil especially the likes of Boots and Lloyds refusing to step outside their bloody ridiculous procedures  . there's absolutely no point in their sticking to procedures in these EXTRAORDINARY circumstances. The wholesalers are out of stock. Janssen may still have some. They should bloody well be serving their PATIENTS - aaarghh! We should all complain!

On another note, in case it is of help to anyone - my specialist menopause clinic were organising calls to all their patients who had questions last week. One of the gynaecologists rang me and said she would write to my GP asking her to prescribe generic estradiol from now on so that I could get whatever was in stock - Evorel (not likely!), estradot, estraderm etc etc. She said any patch with estradiol as the only ingredient was the same was any other.  She also asked me if I was willing to try estradiol gel and explained it was the same only via a different route. She said she would write to the GP to explain  how to dose the gel.

I am going to Spain next week with a repeat chit and an empty box to show them and will report back as to how I get on.       

[Rose B]

Does anyone know if they are still available in USA, as going to visit my son there next week?

Hi Rose B,

I've asked a friend in US and apparently there's no HRT shortages over there. All products available.

Thanks thats helpful.  I will take an empty box and repeat prescription form with me, and hope can get some (at not too exorbitant a price!!).

My daughter has told me they are available in Luxembourg but she'll need a prescription on my behalf.  Presumably not an NHS one? She has asked colleagues in Spain and Italy for availability too.

[Rose B]

The woman I heard on Radio 2 talking about buying Everol in Italy whilst on holiday,  apparently just told pharmacist that she had forgotten to take them with her, and got them OTC.

What gets me about the whole debacle,  is the disinterested shrug I've been greeted with over and over again at pharmacies. And how many don't seem to even know about the HRT shortage.

[Jari]

Hi ladies, I don't take hrt and haven't read the thread, but thought I'd just post this as just saw on Jeremy vine show this morning. Dr David Bull said there are problems with hrt shortages, due to problems within the company that makes it and efficacy of the product. He didn't mention which one it was. Anyway just thought I'd say incase it helps. You can watch the programme back on channel 5 catch up if you want to. X

[jaycee]

Not especially to do with the shortage of patches, but wondering how many different patches there are
I was looking in the MM list of HRTs, and there aren't that many  different patches, so is most HRT tablets?or are not all patches listed?

[Katejo]

Hi ladies, I don't take hrt and haven't read the thread, but thought I'd just post this as just saw on Jeremy vine show this morning. Dr David Bull said there are problems with hrt shortages, due to problems within the company that makes it and efficacy of the product. He didn't mention which one it was. Anyway just thought I'd say incase it helps. You can watch the programme back on channel 5 catch up if you want to. X

The problem product is Femseven  which has lead to women switching to Evorel which has now run out.

[roseandthorn]

Has anyone heard any update on FemSeven? Perhaps it's time I ambushed Theramex with another email.

[bear]

Has anyone heard any update on FemSeven? Perhaps it's time I ambushed Theramex with another email.

Hi roseandthorn,

I don't know about FemSeven, but I was browsing LinkedIn a couple of weeks ago and I saw Theramex has been opening many job positions. This one caught my attention, Head of External Manufacturing. They must be reorganising the whole company! I'll see if I can find a link, I remember thinking that this was interesting info, but now I forgot what exactly.

It's not online anymore but I had saved it on my LinkedIn account:

BeaR.

[Hurdity]

Has anyone heard any update on FemSeven? Perhaps it's time I ambushed Theramex with another email.

Hi roseandthorn,

I don't know about FemSeven, but I was browsing LinkedIn a couple of weeks ago and I saw Theramex has been opening many job positions. This one caught my attention, Head of External Manufacturing. They must be reorganising the whole company! I'll see if I can find a link, I remember thinking that this was interesting info, but now I forgot what exactly.

It's not online anymore but I had saved it on my LinkedIn account:

BeaR.

  Very amusing! Nowt to do with HRT supply issues though!!

Hurdity x

[Hurdity]

On the thread about buying HRT in Spain the issue of manufacturing shortages was mentioned so though I would post my views on here as it's not about Spain specifically. I posed on that thread about obtaining patches in France for any patch users who are interested and have a UK prescription. Incidentally after Brexit (which hopefully won't happen and at least now there could be a deal with EU to remain in sinlge market maybe?) - I wonder if our UK prescriptions could be used?

This is from the other thread:

Just a thought-
If there is no supply problems elsewhere in Europe, it means that there is not a ‘manufacturing problem'. The suspicious kind of bird I am has to ask is it deliberate?- either through stockpiling for an imagined Brexit Armageddon or restricting stock as us brits are not playing ball........

I know nothing about the supply chain except that it could be something to do with companies who buy the HRT directly from the manufacturers and then supply down the line eventually to our pharmacies. It could be that current stocks are still plentiful in continental Europe (maybe less demand) but are held in stock somewhere in the supply chain in other countries ( if not in UK?) and in order to supply UK with more would involve manufacturing as presumably different companies are involved in distribution to different countries?

Personally I would say it is pointless investigating the (boring!) ramifications of which company buys which product from whom - we can do nothing about this -  but the upshot of whatever it is, is our shortage!!!!

Re Femseven - products are reformulated every now and again. I think the differnce with this one is that rather than discontinue it permanently and reissue as a different product - it does appear that the same product is going to be improved - fingers crossed for all those who liked it!

Hurdity x

[KiltedCupid]

 Incidentally after Brexit (which hopefully won't happen and at least now there could be a deal with EU to remain in sinlge market maybe?) - I wonder if our UK prescriptions could be used?




Hurdity x

What deal?

[Hurdity]

 

[bear]

Has anyone heard any update on FemSeven? Perhaps it's time I ambushed Theramex with another email.

Hi roseandthorn,

I don't know about FemSeven, but I was browsing LinkedIn a couple of weeks ago and I saw Theramex has been opening many job positions. This one caught my attention, Head of External Manufacturing. They must be reorganising the whole company! I'll see if I can find a link, I remember thinking that this was interesting info, but now I forgot what exactly.

It's not online anymore but I had saved it on my LinkedIn account:

BeaR.

  Very amusing! Nowt to do with HRT supply issues though!!

Hurdity x

Do you want me to explain?

BeaR.

[Hurdity]

Thanks for the offer - but no thanks!!

We await a reformulation of the product in due course....

Hurdity x

[Jari]

Seems there's a problem with the company and efficacy of the product?!

Do you have more news BeaR?

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