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[Ladybt28]

Hi bluebutterfly - its funny how the "feeling ok" bit creeps up on you. Glad you are feeling better than you have.  Yep, we do need to be careful about missing doses or doing it to late - mental note "don't do that again"!  doesnt matter whether it is a small dose your body obviously needs it.

[Roseneath]

Hi ladies. I thought I would tag onto this post as I have had a rubbish Christmas away from home feeling that I am only just keeping it together for the family.  Have struggled for 5 years or so with health anxiety and it always seems to get worse pre a holiday.  Noticed a twitching finger  about a week ago and Stupidly Googled so now convinced I have MS /Parkinsons etc. Thought of little else over Christmas. I get pins and needles in my feet/hands and mouth sometimes and crampy calves/internal shakes in bed but I always put that down to bad circulation and anxiety. I have been doing CBT via NHS weekly but couldn't get my head away from my fears long enough to practise it. Was up in hotel bathroom at 2am on Christmas Eve googling where the nearest ER was! Have made a docs appointment for tomorrow but they must be sick of my by now...I have had every Meno symptom going but they seem to just keep coming.

[BlueButterfly]

Roseneath, I'm so sorry! I get the tingling and twitching as well! I've convinced myself a couple of times I have MS or ALS...but it comes and goes. I've recently increased my dose of B12 and magnesium, that seems to be helping. I've started getting an eye twitch when I don't sleep enough now as well. Zinc helped my mouth/tongue/lip tingling. Still deal with muscle tension...right now in the left side of neck and shoulder.

I hope the doctor goes well tomorrow! I felt like the doc was sick of me too but really what else are we to do? This is a mess! I've counted almost 30 symptoms of the menopause at this point so you aren't alone!

I have decided I am in need of a chiropractor now. I keep having nerve pains all over in my back, shoulder or arms...some down my legs. I don't go very often...but it just feels like everything is out of alignment.

[Jodieh]

I was so glad to read this as for a couple of months now I have been driving myself insane, I am convinced I am dying. Christmas has been a nightmare felt awful!

Slow sluggish, slow resting heart rate, internal trembling, numbness across shoulders and back, wobbly legs, feeling of complete and utter doom, crying, sitting staring into space! I wouldn't say I was fatigued but absolutely no inclination to get out and do anything! My anxiety is through the roof, convinced I have heart failure or a serious heart problem. I lost my dad to a heart attack when I was young so it a health anxiety issue for me.

My mum and sister both have under active thyroid however I get tested regular and told I'm within normal perameters.

I was to feel like me again, I made a list of everything and took it to my GP she said everything was a classic sign of peri/menopause and or anxiety. She said nothing spelled heart problems to her, but I accept that for a couple of days then I doubt and think they've got it wrong. I am literally driving myself insane.

I have started taking Menopace on doctors advice, I pray it has some effect. I would like to go down a herbal route if possible. I'm crying writing this. I had two easy pregnancies and text book births I feel this is my punishment.

I'm back at work after the Christmas break soon and I just don't know how I will function. 😌

[CLKD]

Maybe Jodieh make a separate thread so that you don't get 'lost'?  It is known that GPs think that when a thyroid function test is 'within normal limits' that the person isn't having problems, however, some can seem to have normal results but still require treatment.  It's a speciality seriously under-treated!

Have a look at the alternative room. However, some ladies find that when their hormones start playing up, any herbal remedies have less benefit.  After all, menopause is natural but some symptoms can be over-whelming.  Also, one can try treatment, gain benefit then stop in later years, it doesn't have to be: though can be: for Life ;-)

[Jodieh]

Thanks for the reply CLKD, It's just nice to know that I'm not alone in what I'm feeling, I also guess that things are changing and I have to accept a different kind of normal also.

I will persevere with the thyroid as my mum was symptomatic for a while before her levels dropped into the abnormal levels and they gave treatment.  Thanks again 😁

[CLKD]

Can you talk to your Mum's care provider about the various issues around thyroid?

Browse round.  It's The Change - does what it says on the tin!

[Roseneath]

I just sent you a private message Jodieh as I've had a similar experience recently.x

[Jodieh]

Roseneath thank you so much for the personal message, for some reason it won't allow me to send personal messages, I will look into it. I will keep an eye on the Menopace situation and mention to my GP at my next appointment. Xx
CLKD my mum and I are with the same gp practice so I may take her with me next appointment she's a force to be reckoned with 😁🤞xx

[CLKD]

Good Idea.  Get her to put foot down with firm hand 

[BlueButterfly]

Jodieh,

Yes it is awful isn't it? I think "convinced/feeling like you are dying" should be the first peri/menopause symptom! Have a look at the 'Things I've diagnosed myself with..." thread is the funny side section. You'll see that many of us are in that same boat!

I've had the slower heart rate (still do but not as bad...resting got down to low 50s and could even get it into the 40s at times!), anxiety, internal shakes, palpitations....muscles aches, spasms, digestion issues...oh my, the list goes on and on. And it all started quite suddenly when things were going fine and life was going good. It was almost summer...almost time for all that summer fun and I ended up spending the summer in fear and despair...very little fun. It was awful. I had 3 EKGs, a stress test and a 48 hour monitor on my heart...and it good. Thyroid, autoimmune diseases, vitamin, etc tests done...I honestly don't know what else they could check my blood for at this point! I am happy (but was really struggling with it as well) to report that I am incredibly healthy. But at the time is was devastating because it meant I felt awful for "no reason"!  It was horrible just having my body suddenly not work like it used to!

I hope you can get feeling better!

[BlueButterfly]

Ridiculously excited...I had a 5 day period without being on a contraceptive... (and much better than the 9-10 day ones I've been having!). I also had a 27 day cycle instead of the 20-24 day mess I was having. My body is adjusting to the new hormones and they are agreeing with me. Very thrilled. Had my first real headache/migraine in months though...but also started my cold at the same time as my cycle. I think the cold is responsible for the headache. Just working on getting over the cough now.

I feel like adrenaline is messing with me more lately. I wake up very shaky. I wake in the middle of the night...yes the cough but the hour I wake up is in the 1-3am range like when my cortisol is off. And I'm wide awake...can't go back to sleep for hours. Part of me thinks I would sleep through the coughing at night (possibly not even cough) if all that was figured out. I think the holiday diet has thrown my body off again. I'm going to try to focus on the adrenal fatigue thing....try to follow that protocol again and see if I start to feel better since I seem to have the hormones figured out for the most part now.

[BlueButterfly]

I need to look it back up. I know cutting out sugar/junk was part of it, gluten too. I know supplements and vitamins as well. I can't remember it all though. I was focused on nutrition and rest mostly. I remember eating a lot of eggs for some reason.    I have it saved somewhere...need to remember where??

Still piecing it all back together:
Ate more frequently-every few hours
More water...it felt like an insane amount
Increase salt- I honestly would just suck on a chunk of Himalayan salt each day in addition to what I had with food
Increased vitamin C, B vitamins, Magnesium and fish oil. And zinc.
Cut out sugar/sweets. Ate lots of veggies. I really liked salads. I still can't remember why the eggs so much?
Cut out gluten...or at least down
Relaxation/meditation each day.
Try to get to bed early.
Some simple exercise each day
My body didn't like the ashgawandha (sp?)
Epsom salt baths at least once a week.
Digestive enzymes

Some of that might be a cross with trying to help my digestion as well. But I think it's all connected some how.

I've slacked off on a lot of the stuff that was helping, especially diet. Some digestion issues are starting but they are minor. I think they could be connected to all the cough drops and medicine I've been using as well. My mouth feels funny too....almost like it has been numbed a bit. Tongue, roof of mouth, back of throat a bit. I think that's from all the menthol cough drops. Trying to avoid using any today and will do my best tonight as well.

I've read tart cherry juice can increase melatonin at night and help you sleep better. Anyone tried it?

[CLKD]

Why Himalyan salt?  Sucking isn't the way to go with salt, but adding as a flavouring to food in small doses throughout the week is essential.  Of course, salt is mined in Cheshire as well as dried in Wales and in Essex.

I had a night of little sleep, tossed and turned.  Eventually ate 2 biscuits then read for 20 mins. B4 feeling sleepy.

[CLKD]

Sorry - salt is salt! !  ! ........... it is wrong to be importing salt from abroad when we grow our own. Air miles etc.!

Our council bin was moved overnight - we don't remember pulling it to the kerb  then I had a light bulb moment.  Someone else needed space for bags from C.mas/New Year and didn't wake us to ask ...........