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[Hurdity]

Bumped for various members who have been asking about testosterone and doses (go to first post in thread!)

Hurdity x

[Otes73]

Thanks Hurdity! 
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[Mrs Bella]

Thank you Hurdity!
As much as I have googled and read others posts/links on this topic, I still don't know what it actually does...how it helps with menopause symptoms. Also, over the past few years I have gotten hairier and developed what I would consider acne. Well maybe just crappier skin. Doesn't that mean I have too much this hormone? I am going to be hairier than my husband soon the rate I am going. Arrrrrrrrr 😬 Help!

[Hurdity]

Bumped for new member oldonetwo...

[Hurdity]

Bumped for new member Shelly65

Go to the first post and start from there!

Hurdity  x

[Mindfulmoomins]

Thanks Hurdity, I've done screen shots of your info. Can you please become a specialist Memopause GP? 😉☺️Xx

[Hurdity]

Bumped for Muzza and also here is a link to the Chelsea and Westminster leaflet on testosterone supplementation - although the information on products is now out of date:

https://www.menopausematters.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,39588.msg627850.html#msg627850

Edit: This is the correct link to that leaflet!
http://www.chelwest.nhs.uk/services/womens-health-services/gynaecology-services/menopause-and-pms-clinics/links/Testosteronereplacementforfemaleandrogendeficiency092017CWAGREED.pdf

Testim gel has been discontinued as far as I understand

Testogel 1% sachets was unavailable for some time but I think is no available again.

As stated at the start of this  - there is also now Testogel pump pack 1.62% - see the thread for info.

There is also Androfeme (testosterone) Cream specifically formulated for women but made in Australia and only available by private prescription in UK and is very expensive.

Hope this helps.

Hurdity x

Edited to correct link!

[Hurdity]

Bumped for Sooze.

Hurdity x

[NorthArm]

Yes Androfeme is manufactured here (in Western Australia) and also a private prescription - as I no longer live there and am now living on the other side of the country I have to order it directly from the company at a cost of $85 (about £45-50)! The bonus is that it is designed especially for women and lasts about three months.

Just for comparison I googled the price for men's product and it came back at $40 (£15-20)! How typical is that??

I went to our local chemist to see if they could order it in, he's actually been able to get it compounded for me for $50 (£20-25)....I'm not sure if it's able to be done like that in the UK? As he explained to me, it's exactly the same ingredients and the same dose, so I'm going to believe him on it. I'm picking it up tonight, and hoping to start asap. At least I can get started on it before hols next week, and can organise myself to order it online from the manufacturer next time. Will be good for comparison at any rate.

Hurdity, is it better to use in the morning or the evening?

[Autumn27]

I had the good fortune to spend 40 mins with a specialist pharmacist at the menopause clinic last year, who told me the correct dose for women taking Testogel 16.2mg/g, the pump version, is 2 full pumps per week.

[Hurdity]

I had the good fortune to spend 40 mins with a specialist pharmacist at the menopause clinic last year, who told me the correct dose for women taking Testogel 16.2mg/g, the pump version, is 2 full pumps per week.

Thanks Autumn27 for passing this one.

However despite what the pharmacist says I would say this is still too high as a starting dose for some women. The pharmacist will be calculating this on the basis of total amount of T contained in each pump

Two full pumps give 40.5 mg T. With the 1% Testogel/Testim if one tube lasted 10 days this would give 35 mg of T per week which is slightly less. Many of us though need less than this eg my tubes of 1% Testim/Testogel last at least a fortnight so that dose (of two pumps per week) would be too high and personally I wouldn't want to apply it once a week.

Also the other thing is it delivers it as quite a high dose all at once - when given twice a week - and I'm not sure how having a big hit like that will affect women - quite simply there is insufficient information about this as far as I know?

If I was given this pump pack I would still want to start with a very small pea sized blob (petit-pois) daily or a slightly larger one every other day and try for a few months before increasing. Women in surgical menopause may well be fine with higher starting doses due to lack of ovarian production.

Just my view of course!

Hurdity x

[Hurdity]

Also to add that the Chelsea and Westminster menopause clinic recommends 2 pumps per week of 2% Tostran as a starting dose which is 20 mg and up to a max of 3 pumps (30 mg) which is less so there is not consistency with advice between menopause clinics either!

http://www.chelwest.nhs.uk/services/womens-health-services/gynaecology-services/menopause-and-pms-clinics/links/Testosteronereplacementforfemaleandrogendeficiency092017CWAGREED.pdf

Hurdity x

[Joaniepat]

I'm confused now. If the Testogel pump gives 16.2 mg/g per pump, would not two pumps give 32.4 mg/g? Can't see where the 40.5 mg comes from. I expect it's me being dense.

JP x

[Conolly]

Hello Joaniepat,

"One gram of gel contains 16.2 mg testosterone. One pump actuation delivers 1.25 g of gel containing 20.25 mg of testosterone."

Conolly X

[Joaniepat]

Hello Joaniepat,

"One gram of gel contains 16.2 mg testosterone. One pump actuation delivers 1.25 g of gel containing 20.25 mg of testosterone."

Conolly X

Oh I see! Many thanks Conolly, all is clear now.
JP x