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[Annie0710]

I felt exactly like you, that I'd suddenly aged and quicker than everyone else and couldn't face people for fear of them thinking I'd let myself go.  Replacing testosterone with my oestrogen has given a bit of confidence back, not like I was before, but better than I've been recently x

[Dancinggirl]

Good point Annie0710 - Getting the right hormone balance is crucial - this is why Emerald2017 needs to tell us what HRT she is using etc. so she feels completely supported and can go forward more positively. Dg x

[Emerald2017]

Thank you very much for your advices!
Nice to hear from you both! I'm on cyclo progynova, 2mg estradiol and 0.5 norgestel. My gyn insists on it. I suggested to try micronized progesterone but he said that it's an option for later.
I'll try to cope with my life, I just not feel the same as before and it gives me a lot of pain.

[Dancinggirl]

Emerald2017 - you do need HRT but I think you need to be on a different type of HRT. I suspect the progesterone in progyniva May be effecting your mood. There are different progesterones that may suit you better ( not just micronised progesterone ) and being on a sequential HRT may also make you feel better as well.
Can ask your GP to let you try something different? Femoston 2/10 has a kinder progesterone and this would also give a monthly bleed which might physiologically might make you feel better - for many women having a monthly bleed is important. DG x

[Emerald2017]

I'm on seq so I have a bleed every month. I'm not in UK and in my country it's very difficult to find a variety of hrt, unfortunately! I was thinking about Femoston but I cannot find it so easily! The mayority of gyns prescribe cyclo progynova as hrt because it's easier to find it or Qlaira.

[Dancinggirl]

Try Qlaira - the progesterone is different so might be better.  To be honest, if your ovaries have packed up completely (so you are not producing natural oestrogen yourself) you would probably be better on a true HRT.  Where do you live?
Look under TREATMENTS - and look at what is in each of the different HRT types to see what is in them - perhaps print this information off so you can show this to the GP - you may be able to get the same things but under a different label name.
In my 40s I ddi very well on Oestrogel daily (one to two pumps per day) and Dydrogesterone (as pills) for 10 days each month.  You might do well on Provera/Climanor(medroxyprogesterone) as an alternative progesterone.

Print off all sections so:  Oestrogens, Progesterones, Peri meno HRTs and Post meno HRTS - one can pick various combinations from the oestrogen and progesterone sections.

I believe you are feeling a failure because you are having to use HRT??? You are clearly a healthy person if you do cross training and there is no reason you have to stop doing this type of exercise.  What's happened to you is not unusual adn can happen to anyone - it's just one those things.  HRT will protect you adn help you maintain your ability to do high levels exercise but you may have to tweak what you use till you find the regime that keeps you stable. AS someone who has trained hard, I do have to tell you that once you hit your 40s, heavy training does become much tougher anyway for everyone
DG x

[Emerald2017]

Thanks again dancing Girl! I'm from Greece and gyns are too afraid to prescribe hrt. Oestrogel doesn't exist in pharmacies in my country and I can only combine pills to find the correct but I'm a little scare. I had an "estrogen crash" a few months ago with very severe symptoms,as insulin intolerance, dry eyes, insomnia, muscle aches and brain fog. I thought that I had lupus or dementia. I lost my muscle mass and I couldn't go to gym cause I was feeling too tired. I feel like a failure cause I have to take hrt, you're right, it's difficult for me to accept it and I have a great difficult to handle aging and death. I'm sad and very afraid of breast cancer. I think that hrt is the only way to cope with all these and I'll take it until I die I think!
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[CLKD]

Emerald - as oestrogen levels drop the body may become dry: inside and out - nostrils, deep in the ears, skin, vagina  , which can cause parts of the body to itch.  Also, as levels drop muscles may become lax = aches and pains.

Make sure that you have enough VitD.  A few months ago I got very tired, would do 20 mins. weeding then have to sit for 2 hours, unlike me.  So off to the GP for blood tests.

[Emerald2017]

Thanks for replying!
 I take vit D daily and my bones are Ok.
 I feel a failure cause a lot of women face menopause as something natural and without so strong symptoms. I am miserable, feel sad and face menopause as a disease, a disaster and a passage to old age. I cannot find anything natural or positive. I see hrt as a drug I need for my deficiency. My body doesn't produce any estrogen and has low ability to adjust to new hormonal state.

[Dancinggirl]

You are not a failure - premature menopause is quite common and HRT is very necessary to protect your heart and bones.
Print the different HRT options off from this site and see you gynaecologist to discuss your options. DG x

[Emerald2017]

I feel better today, love to hear from all of you! I think that because of my severe symptoms, I was too afraid without any idea how to handle. Thank you again!

[Emerald2017]

If someone feel the same please contact with me...

[Knittyknotty]

Emerald2017 you are not alone in the way you feel. I had a VERY early menopause at age 22, infact I was virtually through it by the time it was diagnosed at 22!  For a very long time I've felt a total failure as a woman (still struggle with it now at age 45) but with the help of a new and very understanding partner I'm getting over that.

I hope you get your HRT issue sorted soon and start to feel more at peace.

K x

[Abba Fan]

Hi Emerald2017, Estrogel is most certainly available in Greece, I don't know if you need a prescription for it. Here's the Greek link to it https://www.galinos.gr/web/drugs/main/drugs/oestrogel it costs only 3euro 40cents there.

[Emerald2017]

Hi! Sorry for have to cope with meno so young!!! Nice to hear from you! It gives me courage to go on! My partner left me when I diagnosed with POF. I didn't  want to use donor eggs and to put my body to a pregnancy, it's more my personal choice I think. He said that he wants children, we argue a lot, he did not want an adoption...so that was the end of our relationship. I try to cope with all these changes at my life and to find the strength inside me...it's hard.