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Author Topic: Clement Freud  (Read 13068 times)

booboo

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Clement Freud
« on: June 16, 2016, 04:52:07 PM »

He died 6 years ago and now he is being exposed for sexual abuse.. In these cases, I struggle to understand how a dead man can be proved guilty .. But also, if he was guilty why has it taken so long for people to come forward ..
I cant help but think there could/must potentially be many nervous men - from pop stars to tv personalities etc going back years...
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CLKD

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Re: Clement Freud
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2016, 05:19:04 PM »

Yep.  It's the way these issues are handled these days  :-\.  People should not be named unless proven guilty.
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booboo

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Re: Clement Freud
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2016, 06:04:47 PM »

I can view it from both sides in that if he /they are guilty then the victims understandably want some kind of recourse ( if that's the right word) - but also must be very difficult for the families of the exposed men...
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Dorothy

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Re: Clement Freud
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2016, 06:59:25 PM »

Just mentioned this on the Cliff Richard thread - I don't think abusers should be named if they have died.  It's traumatic for the family & friends of the abuser whatever the circumstances, but if the abuser is alive, then action needs to be taken to prevent them harming anyone else.  But if they have died, they are no longer a risk to anyone, so naming them serves no purpose in protecting people and only causes great pain to their families.

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Dulciana

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Re: Clement Freud
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2016, 07:10:34 PM »

A couple of things come to mind - (a) people seem to grasp at anything for a bit of scandal, these days
and (b) there's the old "sell your story to the media" thing - if it wasn't for the media, people would be left alone more, even after they've departed this world.   We live in such a blame culture these days.    :(
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booboo

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Re: Clement Freud
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2016, 07:48:22 PM »

The media has a lot to answer for ..
There is also a lot of greed & questionable motives of some..
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breeze

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Re: Clement Freud
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2016, 08:22:34 PM »

Can't help feeling really sorry for his widow.  Surely after all these years this revelation could have waited until she had passed on.

If the alleged perpetrator is dead it's just the family that are punished, usually by the media.
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Joyce

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Re: Clement Freud
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2016, 10:15:48 PM »

Very true breeze!
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booboo

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Re: Clement Freud
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2016, 09:13:08 AM »

It does seem incredibly cruel that little or no regard is given to the innocent  wives,children etc of the suspects in these alleged offences.... I try to imagine how I would feel if I were in their position - it must be dreadful
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Pennyfarthing

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Re: Clement Freud
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2016, 10:14:07 AM »

I  watched the TV prog about this the other night and it did seem strange to me that CFs wife allowed their 14 year old "foster child" into bed with her and CF.  She then left them alone and went off to make breakfast and the girl was abused. 

I also thought her statement was very peculiar saying she was very sorry for the girls involved and hoped they would now find peace. Most women I know would say things like ..... I just cannot believe he did this, these are false accusations etc.
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booboo

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Re: Clement Freud
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2016, 03:01:48 PM »

I did not see that programme Pennyfarthing - but you are right! - what the wife of CF did/allowed  and said, is not what I would call the norm...There are some very peculiar people about & not always just the men..
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babyjane

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Re: Clement Freud
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2016, 03:43:57 PM »

is this saying that she was complicit or just knew and turned a blind eye?  How odd  :-\
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Pennyfarthing

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Re: Clement Freud
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2016, 04:37:01 PM »

is this saying that she was complicit or just knew and turned a blind eye?  How odd  :-\

NO idea Babyjane but I do know if we had a teenage girl staying at our house and my OH invited her to join us in bed I would have no part of it!!
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Pennyfarthing

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Re: Clement Freud
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2016, 04:38:38 PM »

I did not see that programme Pennyfarthing - but you are right! - what the wife of CF did/allowed  and said, is not what I would call the norm 

The "norm"........    :o

Not sure there is a "norm" about finding out your dead husband had been raping young girls. Perhaps she'd thought she had a good and happy marriage and was shocked by the accusations.

SO why didn't she say in her statement that she is shocked, she cannot believe it etc. Instead of apologising to the victims. Very strange.
I did not see that programme Pennyfarthing - but you are right! - what the wife of CF did/allowed  and said, is not what I would call the norm 

The "norm"........    :o

Not sure there is a "norm" about finding out your dead husband had been raping young girls. Perhaps she'd thought she had a good and happy marriage and was shocked by the accusations.
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booboo

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Re: Clement Freud
« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2016, 06:59:58 PM »

I personally would not think inviting a 14 year old girl into my and my husbands bed " normal" but then maybe I am odd and don't realise it ..
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