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[booboo]

Maybe " the norm" was not a good description " acceptable" would have been more apt..

[breeze]

All this is speculation which in turn leads to finger pointing.

I don't know where all these bedroom stories have come from but I could make a good guess.

Certain newspaper are 10% facts and 90% speculation.  This leads to upset and damage.

I for one and think an 89 year old widow has enough to deal with, with these revelations, without having to deal with media tital tatal.

[CLKD]

They had an 'open marriage' apparently and she knew that the girl was alone with him.    - there was a whole page in The Telegraphy this week  . 

[breeze]

Oh well it must be true then

It's lucky newspapers don't prosecute people, we would all be in jail.

[CLKD]

 

[Pennyfarthing]

All this is speculation which in turn leads to finger pointing.

I don't know where all these bedroom stories have come from but I could make a good guess.

Certain newspaper are 10% facts and 90% speculation.  This leads to upset and damage.

I for one and think an 89 year old widow has enough to deal with, with these revelations, without having to deal with media tital tatal.

ITs not media tittle tattle breeze.  The woman who was abused as a child was on TV the other night on a special programme where she was interviewed in depth, by, I think Julia Somerville.  She went into much detail and they returned to the house and she was able to identify (from the street) all the rooms etc.  Why don't you watch it on catch up and see for yourself?

[breeze]

You have misunderstood my post.  I am just concerned that his widow will be the focus of accusations because the alleged abuser is dead.
It's already happening on this thread.

[Pennyfarthing]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3647464/How-Clement-Freud-raped-m-CERTAIN-knew-happened-Maddie-Tortured-victim-groomed-paedophile-MP-age-14-says-wouldn-t-surprised-linked-disappearance.html

From today's news

[CLKD]

She was complicant ……….. no one 'normally' leaves a young girl in bed with her husband alone  .  Particularly if the child wasn't related ……….

[CLKD]

Spelling error  - we went into our parents' beds until we were 10, I went into my aunt and uncle first thing in the morning as they helped raise me ………. but what has been said by the 'victim' seems to suggest it wasn't what normal parenting would consider 'usual'. 

[breeze]

None of us were there and we only  have one side of the story.

I for one am not going to judge an 89 year old widow. 

I don't have the right OR the information to do this.

[booboo]

We obviously  cannot ( should not) always believe everything that is printed in the papers/media  - but in this instance there appears to be sufficient evidence to suggest there is truth in what has been reported...Particularly as the woman that alleged to having being the abused was interviewed on tv & the wife of CF was apparently  present or aware when it all happened...

[breeze]

I am not desputing the obvious facts of the case, but only the implication that his widow is somehow to blame.

As far as I can see there is no evidence for that, nor has it been implied by the victim.

[booboo]

I am not sure if she is being " blamed" as such!! - but there is speculation and suspicion that she knew or maybe could have been aware of her husbands unacceptable behaviour .. It has been known for people to turn a blind eye - there were plenty that did just that whilst Jimmy Savile were alive ...

[breeze]

Speculation can be a very dangerous thing.  Many an innocent person has been tainted by associaction.

I prefer to wait for the facts.