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[Elizabethrose]

Thanks Jenna. How long did yours take to calm? Previous flares have calmed really quickly but this is nightmarish and is just dragging on. It makes sense of course as I've not been able to rest it.

I honestly think that the years of lying in a bed with the migs has caused further damage. Hopefully, if I can get this sorted, an increase in exercise will improve overall flexibility and strength. xx

[Jenna]

Oh ages, ER. Several months probably, I'm sorry to have to tell you. I used Solgar advanced glucosamine complex tablets (but I've just looked that up and it is no longer available!). I didn't take the tablets until much later on, though, and they really did help. I spent lots of time resting with a very hot water bottle on my back, either lying down or sitting very upright. It still flares up now sometimes and I do the same - resting with a very hot water bottle or even walking round with one strapped to me (even in the hot weather!). I also use glucosamine and emu oil on my back or ibuprofen gel these days. I think it's the heat that really works for me now more than anything, and I don't mean the weather, which is nearly killing me right now! Back then I had some sort of physio at the GP's and then a type of laser treatment I think it was, but it didn't really help - she gave up with me in the end.

My husband also had a herniated disc, but he went to an osteopath and had results within weeks, so, hopefully, you will be the same. xx

[Machair]

My heart goes out to you ER- let's hope they can help quickly and you start to be more comfortable.x

[Elizabethrose]

Thanks Jenna, well fingers crossed this chap has magic fingers: he certainly has his work cut out for him. Third night in a row I've fallen asleep watching the TV, lying flat on my back, on the floor with my legs up a door's architraving, snoring!! I'm such a catch!! Hubby can't stop laughing! Here's hoping I can get a quick fix like your hubby! x

Thanks Machair x

[Elizabethrose]

Oh Sparkle, how frigging disappointing but good news that there's barely anything there. You and Machair seem to have experienced the loss in late peri in a very similar fashion. I just carried on with normal bleeding till the bitter end. How different we all are.

So you were having an oestrogen hike a couple of weeks ago, though it was probably about 12 days ago you commented on it. Maybe your luteal phase has reduced now too. It's so weird how in peri the symptoms of oestrogen hikes are the same as PMT. It's mightily confusing for women!!

Well the good news is that you've not had to suffer the flushes through this horrible hot spell. Though I don't get many now thanks to my reaction to the Vagifem, they have spiked a little through this hot spell. Hopefully you will keep them at bay until this wretched heat dissipates!

Okey dokey two thousand, start that count off again. Day 1. These are for you sweetie        and remember, the longer it takes the more gorgeous you remain!!  xx                         

[nearly50]

Aw sparkle that's a pain, join me at the back of the queue  really sounds like you're nearly there though.

Good luck with osteopath ER, mine is fantastic so I really hope they can sort you.

Two hours sleep as neighbours had a party. Who does that on a Tuesday? Teenagers could be a challenge. 

Weird chills during the night, had to have a hot bath in the middle of the night. Aware it is very hot in my flat, is this some hormonal blip anyone recognises?

[Elizabethrose]

Oh my you've left yourselves open here girls.

nearly50, those chills, were they multiplying, were you losing control............................ Sorry, couldn't resist it! We also had an all night party last night in one of the houses behind ours. They are still out there chatting now. No music thank goodness just really loud talking, yelling and laughter literally, all night long! Oh and there's another tune that springs to mind. Is it end of GCSEs or A level season? Sorry delirium is setting in. I am soooooo tired, it's bad enough trying to sleep with 100 degree heat because I was forced to close the windows at 3.30, without the dodgy back that wakes me constantly. Much gnashing of teeth here!! In answer to your question, I have no idea about the chills but I sincerely which I'd had them last night as I'm going to have to strip the bed today (Lordy knows how!).

Sparkle, hadn't considered it may be eye watering today, thanks for that! The way I'm feeling this morning I'll take him down if he hurts me. Oh boy I need some relief, everything is crossed here!!!! Following the solstices, is it a sign? Could be...........



xx

[nearly50]

Haha, I was losing control when the party goers were buzzing my intercom by mistake - best not repeat what I shouted down it at 2am this morning.

What a shame you had to put up with a party on top of everything else ER, grr. People are really selfish, it is one thing at the weekend but I can't get my head round having a party on a Tuesday.

Having looked at my diary of despair, the hot and cold thing has happened quite a few times before so must just be a hormonal thing.

good luck at osteopath - I do sometimes feel like I'm in a 1970s wrestling match when I go and expect a referee to appear by my side. Good luck.

weird with the solstices sparkle!

[Elizabethrose]

Actually nearly50, I do get serious chills as migraine aura/prodrome with some migraines. Haven't for a long time but would sometimes have duvets piled on top of me, with layers of clothes, and still be shivering, summer or winter. Another sign of silent migraine or maybe a mig brewing? The oestrogen could be hiking up again? How's the bleed? x

[nearly50]

Interesting. So many of my symptoms do seem to be silent migraine related. I do have stomach pain again which I haven't had for a while so I think there's a lot going on. Just spotting now which is good, hope it doesn't come back again for a while.

I think my neighbours just invited the whole pub they were in to come back to theirs as the party didn't start until 1am.

[Elizabethrose]

nearly50, just a thought. If you suspect that many of your symptoms are silent migraine have you considered that of your abdominal pain too? There is a condition called gastric migraine, google it. It is immensely difficult for it to be recognised and therefore diagnosed. The son of a good friend had it and there is a lovely lady on this site dangermouse who suffers with it. Why don't you PM her and have a chat?

There was a recent migraine thread here that I've posted some links on which discuss it, dangermouse contributed to one of them. Have a read. I think her posts are towards the end of the thread but do open some of the posted links for migraine classification, they may prove useful.

https://www.menopausematters.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,33983.0.html

[nearly50]

TY yet again, ER I did think about that a few weeks ago and when I googled it, it said it was very rare amongst adults so I didn't do any more about it. I have always had mild stomach pain and headaches, so definitely something to look at.

[Elizabethrose]

Ermmm, another one of those things that are rare but really difficult to diagnose without specialist migraine training. Very few people, or docs for that case, know of it so how can it be diagnosed?! I wonder how rare it really is! I know four people with it, two children, two adults and there's dangermouse on here. It's the same with Alice in Wonderland headache, supposedly rare but I've come across quite a number of people who suffered or suffer with it. x

[nearly50]

That's really interesting, I will definitely look into this once my brain is working again. I don't know how you manage to still keep helping us all when you're in pain, roasting hot and had no sleep!

[Machair]

Oh heck Sparkle I missed your post yesterday- oh crumbs back to the start with the bleed- I sort of expected you might with the lack of hot flushes. How do you feel and has it developed into anything major? My last few have been nothing more than very light spotting brownish or dark yellow with a tinge of pink mostly- panty liner enough.