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[Machair]

Sparkle have you considered you could be going to have another light period? I think your last one was December so maybe these feelings are a sort of attempt without a bleed. One of my friends is 16 months post now, but she is still having all the feelings that periods might start such as heaviness and various aches and pains.I think this could be the cause of what you are feeling but maybe not.

[Machair]

ER did you sometimes think this would never stop? Period ended on 16th now oestrogen surging again. I am hoping it is storms before calm seas but it is getting rather tiresome!

[Elizabethrose]

Many times Machair, I had 16 years of it.

It will end, don't give up hope. I had real bleeds every time even up to the last bleed. At least you guys just get the slight spotting or just brown discharge which is a real indication that the endometrium is just not being sufficiently stimulated. That's such a positive sign. We differ in that way though similar in so many others.

I decided years ago that I was going to just accept that all would continue so I couldn't be disappointed when it did. I stopped wishing and hoping and expecting that the end was nigh! Keeping a record kept me sane and helped me enormously. If I could gauge what was coming I wouldn't be disappointed. Worn out with it all sometimes but not surprised.

It is very weird not expecting a period and not experiencing the constant roller coasting of hormones. It was exhausting.

Don't despair, ride the storm, I bet it ends soon for you.       

[Machair]

Thank you ER you are so kind. I think maybe I am lucky as I have only had 4 years of chaos not 16! I even had some signs of high oestrogen even during the start of this bleed which spooked me somewhat- fertile looking mucus on days 1 and 2 but then that stopped and restarted again today! Did you have this sort of thing?

[Elizabethrose]

Yes I did. It got to the stage, as I remember (sorry in mig today so brain not functioning properly) in the last cycle when it was raising and dropping what seemed like every few days. I think the FSH was so high that it was just pounding the follicles, as many as possible, but whilst stimulated and producing oestrogen, they weren't viable.

If you had fertile looking mucus on day 1 and 2 I would suggest that it was an anovulatory bleed again. Did you have the mucus there before the bleed or did it start on day one? However I had some short cycles when the oestrogen surged on day 4 and stayed high for about 3 months through bleeds. I truly think anything is possible. When I sometimes read people saying that something is not possible on here, I take it with a pinch of salt, anything is possible in peri. We are all totally different. (Some more than most!!) xx

As Sparkle says, we've all experienced that, for me the mucus mixed with blood is a sure sign that the bleed is anovulatory.

[Machair]

Fertile mucus now seems to be interspersed with very moist days. That was the pattern before the bleed, but certainly there was a high day the day before, then a day of nothing, presumably a fall in oestrogen that triggered the period,  then the bleed with two days of high oestrogen on days 1 and 2 then a week of nothing and off we go again!

So sorry you have the mig today ER - hope you feel better soon.xx

[Elizabethrose]

Machair that sounds like an anovulatory bleed to me and interestingly, in my final months, my usual signs of high oestrogen were diminished. I think I may have said at the time. I had the cervical mucus but it wasn't as copious. The breasts ached rather than them feeling as if they were about to explode. I was bloated but not so that I couldn't get my jeans done up.

My last couple of cycles were like this, then nothing. x

[Machair]

ER I think this may be what is happening to me as the CM is not as copious and is more watery than stretchy on most of the days. My breasts are also less full so maybe this is the home straight!

[nearly50]

I really hope it is the home straight for all of you, it certainly sounds like it. I've started keeping a note of my basal body temperature in the hope to further understand what's going on. Not sure how reliable it'll be since I wake up at least hourly, but I'll give it a go.

this period's horrendous again but feel more like myself emotionally so am able to just deal with it. It just annoys me so much that I will have to take about 9 iron tablets to make up for the blood loss, I think I've got a bit obsessed with keeping the levels up!

I find it weird that I've had night sweats and hot flushes for 3 weeks now, usually they stop when my period starts. No stomach pain or bloating either. My sister did warn me that if I followed her pattern all bets were off on what would happen and when.

[Elizabethrose]

Machair, just had a scan through this thread. Go back to the 29th August and read the page and the pages before and after, it's my last cycle described. See if it fits what you're experiencing. Obviously I didn't know that it was my last (though of course it may well not be but I would be surprised now).

nearly50, I did the temps years ago along side a fertility monitor, I had to for specialists. It was all a massive pain in the butt if I'm honest, having to take temp before I got up and having to pee on a stick whilst half asleep and forgetting to if I woke up early. Real nuisance! Try it though and plot it with your other notes. You'll see after a while that your cervical mucus will tell you everything you need to know.

I'm really sorry it's another heavy bleed again, how awful for you. Did the docs suggest anything that might reduce it, I can't remember whether you told us what you'd tried? So many of my friends experienced really heavy periods at the end of peri. Everyone always expects that they just become lighter, again we're all very different. Did the flushes stop just before the bleed? x

[Machair]

ER thank you so much- yes this is exactly what is happening to me. You are a treasure! It really didn't look like you were so near to the end with that chaos! This gives me hope!

[nearly50]

Hi ER, no flushes are still going strong, no real difference in them. Is that not a bit strange?

Doctors really only suggest a hysterectomy. I haven't been to the doctor since November and am trying to avoid them as much as possible, I'm not sure if they would suggest anything else if I went back. It is manageable at the moment at least. I have only really tried ibuprofen and tranexamic acid which made me feel terrible. Maybe I should try it again though.

Supposed to be going to a hustings for the local elections tonight but not really sure I can have 2 hours away from home. Not ideal, but onwards and upwards and all that.

[Elizabethrose]

nearly50, I'm racking my brains. At what point in your cycle did you have your bloods done, I can't remember? Hormone tests are ideally done on day 3-5 of a cycle, but I don't think yours were, am I right? Sorry brain's a little addled today, as I remember your oestrogen was high but they summarised the readings as inconclusive (cop out statement!), is that right?

I've never had flushes coinciding with high oestrogen it's always one or the other with me. However the scientific understanding of flushes is still sketchy, and again experience of flushes can differ between women. They seem agreed that all it needs is a drop in oestrogen to trigger flushes. I think I wondered to you at the time, that maybe your oestrogen was super high and had dropped a little which may nave been enough to trigger the flushes but still give a high reading for your test result.

If the bleeding continues regularly to be very heavy I'd be tempted to try the tranexamic acid again. I would make sure everything was tried before doing the hyster route. If you need to have it fine, if you don't, explore every other avenue. As far as pain relief is concerned, from experience Mefenamic acid seems to be the very best option. It's an NSAID and only available on prescription.

Load up with a couple of towels tonight and go and enjoy yourself, it'll take your mind off of everything xx

[nearly50]

Hi ER, I got my bloods taken on day 61 of what was a 79 day cycle and oestrogen was 910. This is my second period since then and I have been flushing since I had a really awful flush at work 3 weeks ago. It normally goes away when I think oestreogen is rising again. This period's been odd with no bloating or stomach pain before hand so something different has happened. My brain has also been working so much better than it has for a while, no scrabbling about thinking of words and my thoughts are far clearer. I feel normal, other than the hot flushes and feeling dizzy from the heaviness of the period.

I feel like you're my doctor at this stage

I am not getting a hysterectomy unless I am physically unable to work or leave the house. This is manageable, and the second time anything happens to me I'm usually able to cope a lot better.

I have a new Samsung s8 to play with before going to the hustings so all is good, thanks so much for your wisdom as usual. I really value your posts.

[Elizabethrose]

Oh dear sorry, just truing to puzzle it out for you!  It's all so tricky though as we're all so different. I'm sure you'll manage it all. Have a lovely time tonight x