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[Machair]

I know I was wondering if I should count June but I think I will as it was also a big rise and fall. Still having rises and falls, but not as much and no spotting either, but then again who knows what tomorrow will bring!

[Elizabethrose]

Well ladies, one thing's for sure..........we'll get there in the end!

Just remember - we'll still be drop dead gorgeous at our meno parties. I may be using a zimmer frame with my teeth in a pot on the side but I'll still have the body of a thirty year old. (Says the woman who is bent double with bulging discs at the moment and who is having to sit on a pad because of a painful coccyx!!) Hah, there's no hope! Night night xx

[Elizabethrose]

Thanks Sparkle, just need to do my exercises! It's been aggravated by too much time sitting or lying with the pesky migs this past few months. It's fine if I keep moving.

So glad to hear that you're feeling better if not completely better. There are lots of horrid bugs around at the moment. We left our daughter in France feeling poorly but she then became very ill with a serious flu/stomach flu type thing. She had to be virtually carried to a doc. She's normally really hardy and never ill but this completely wiped her out.

Night night x

[Elizabethrose]

Thank goodness her boyfriend's parents live fairly close by and when they discovered she was ill drove to see her. They took one look and had to virtually carry her out to the car and off to their doctor. She was too weak to get out of bed and by that stage diarrhoea had started. Doc said gastroenteritis but few days later glands swelled and throat was blisteringly sore, so I suspect flu/stomach flu. It wiped her out completely, she's skinny as a rake but eats like a horse (like me at that age), but trouble is she loses weight immediately she stops eating.

Boyfriend's mother is an absolute delight, she'll be arriving on her doorstep every night with food if I know her!! It's lovely to know she has a loving family close by who adore her!

The medical legacy we leave our kids is sometimes worrying. Both my kids have migraine, my son fairly frequently at the moment. Your daughter sounds like mine with the hormones, poor thing. I can't get to grips with this two week wait for GP appointments - our surgery doesn't seem to work like that. I do wish your lass well soon. At least she has her mum at hand to watch her and spoil her!

Three night sweats last night, wide awake half the night. Here we go............. x

[Elizabethrose]

Sparkle, I'm ever hopeful that the medical profession will get to grips with all that meno brings with it and find some better ways to handle it. Much more research is being done now which has to help. Too much has been ignored for too long. It's the same with migraine: things are beginning to be taken seriously and more research done. Hopefully when our girls get to our age, everyone will be better educated generally! Your poor lass, she's had it for ages now, I hope things improve soon.

Decorators left end of last week and good b____y riddance. They won't be invited back again, to be sure! They let themselves down terribly and will lose out as a result of it. We still have another two rooms and the whole outside that they were to do in Spring. Not now! We are constantly flabbergasted that they can so easily talk the talk but just not come up with the goods! Thank goodness my eyes are in a constant soft focus - one of the benefits of ageing!! x

[Elizabethrose]

Not redone Sparkle, touched up a little and cleaned up a lot! What I wouldn't give for decent decorators: my goodness they would clean up around here!

Felt weirdly bloated and uncomfortable this morning: just felt like a period was coming. If it does then I will be truly amazed as there has been absolutely no sign of hormone rise this month and that really would be a first. Watch this space! x

[Machair]

Amazing so have you had no mucus at all since your last period? Maybe you won't actually have a period this time- maybe you are on the home straight! If you have been having hot flushes then perhaps you will have a short period soon. Then the clock will tick again!

[Elizabethrose]

Haha, is this a wind up? It's only 29 days today (kill me!).

Nope Machair, absolutely nothing but the flushes are still low key and night sweats only about 3 a night. This time a few months ago they were coming every 20 mins all day and about 5 or 6 a night that would leave me awake for most of it! This is all a bit too low key for me at the moment. Hah, my husband said tonight it's the eye of the storm. x

[Machair]

This is so interesting ER as I remember you talking about when you had weeks and weeks of high oestrogen and then all of a sudden it stopped and was replaced by a dramatic fall. This time it seems more gentle- maybe the oestrogen is not climbing as high, so less to fall if you see what I mean. At lease this gives you some sleep.x

[Elizabethrose]

I've tried to see a pattern as have my specialists, but these pesky ovaries are 'just doing their thing!'

I had over 10 weeks of absolutely no discharge, nothing, from mid Dec until beginning of March. I had constant hellish migraines through this time. Then very suddenly the flushes started for the first time ever and the night sweats returned. Oestrogen suddenly surged on the 10th April, flushes stopped and these surges and plunges have continued ever since, with 3 anovulatory bleeds since 29th June.

You're right Machair, this is interesting: this is a long period of time for me without an oestrogen surge or without constant flushes. I seem to be in a weird in between sort of place. The flushes and night sweats are minor and nothing near the violent episodes I had before, though I previously found that they could morph in intensity as they built from one bout to the next.

This is just a waiting game. The migs have plateaued too; some days nagging, some days fine, some days more disruptive and in my bed. The difficulty is not knowing where I am: I've had to cancel 3 social engagements in the past week and a half. It's boring! BUT it's better than it has been so there's a lot to look forward to.  xx

[Elizabethrose]

Hi ladies, how are you, anything happening?

35 days today, nothing came of the bloating blip a week ago. Hot flushes and night sweats are continuing in a low key sort of way. They are not causing a problem, though the sudden waking before the sweat hits during the night is a pain because of course it leaves me alert and wide awake for ages. Thankfully it's only happening about twice a night! Still absolutely no sign of oestrogen rises so I'm very very clearly on a low at the moment.

I had a very interesting conversation with my mother yesterday about cervical mucus, discharge and VA. She's an absolute hoot, never minces her words, you can be sure to always receive an honest answer from her! She went through meno at 45/46, never took HRT (we lived in a household where nobody took meds unless you perhaps lost a limb!!). I asked her if she had struggled with a lack of discharge or VA. She said that discharge had decreased after meno but whilst not obvious it was still sufficient to keep things moist internally. I explained that I felt a little dry at the moment and hadn't experienced this before, also explained that I was using a blob of Sylk after my shower in the morning. She very sensibly said that everyone is different, she knew women who had struggled with discomfort for years in peri and post meno and some who didn't at all. She pointed out that although I use a pure vegetable oil soap with supposedly no nasties, it's only after my shower that all feels a little dry.  All feels very comfortable for the rest of the day. However, again very sensibly, she said that there was so much available nowadays to treat vaginal dryness and VA that us "young women" should avail ourselves. "We are not living in the dark ages darling!"

Sparkle, how is your acid reflux - are the new meds working any better? xx

[Machair]

So interesting to read ER and isn't your Mum brilliant? She is certainly very helpful!

I am back in the same boat! Very full of PMT, pink loss- minimal on Monday, and just brown since- light but there, but so far not turning into a full on bleed but trying to I know. The clock ticks again for me as this is certainly trying. I remember you saying you had this in April and I think Sparkle had the same in June. Maybe this will turn into a proper period, maybe not but it is still trying. Don't think I am going to cross the finish line first at this rate

[Elizabethrose]

Hah, catching you both up, second place now, just Sparkle to take out. Sparkle, where are you girl?!! 

Oh sorry Machair, but if we don't laugh...........

I'm sorry for you but we've been here before, wrote this pesky mini series. Whilst disappointing it really doesn't matter when it happens, it will eventually sure enough! The good news is that your oestrogen levels are not sufficient to create a proper lining, that's a good sign. I'm still doing proper anovulatory bleeds! 

Shrug it off, que sera and all that jazz, keep smiling!  xx 

[Elizabethrose]

How are you feeling today Machair? Are you ok?

Good to hear from you Sparkle. I'm really pleased, all seems more positive. Don't beat yourself up, we all know we need to be more proactive sometimes but when you're feeling rotten it's not always easy! You seem to be in fight back mode at the moment which can only be good! Hubby finds the Vit D a definite help with the IBS. It may still be early days for the new meds, sometimes it takes ages for us to see the benefit of new meds.

How are the other ladies on this thread, Elainediva, Lifeasweknowit (and anyone else I may have forgotten)?? How are you all, what's happening with you at the moment?

Have to say I feel rotten today. Really bad night with the sweats, had 6 which left me wide awake each time for ages, so I had very little sleep. This of course ALWAYS results in a migraine, and I'm wiped out today. I've been trying to save my meds as we're going away in a week but been forced to take them today as this is a monster. 

I've moved from my bed, as sitting there kills my back and coccyx, and set up camp in the kitchen. I've closed the blinds and curtains, snuggled myself into an armchair (with a spongey seat good for my dodgy coccyx) so have the kettle etc to hand. I feel as if I'm 105 today! What I really need is someone to bring me comfort food. Any offers ladies? Just eaten a cold bowl of leftover sticky rice with satay sauce but it hasn't quite touched the spot! xxx

[Machair]

Hello ER. If I lived near I would bring you home made Bakewell Tart if you like that, or if not I would take your order and bring it round! So sorry you are feeling so rough.

I am so bad with PMT it is horrid. I feel like decking something or someone! Better not do that so resorting to exercise with the dog! Long walk is better that risking a criminal record!