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[Elizabethrose]

Oh thanks pal!! I love Bakewell tart, I'd be open to any offers if I'm honest.

Poor you, it's debilitating and disappointing in equal measures. A walk is poor compensation for the need to deck someone, but needs must! 

I really hope the fresh air and exercise make you feel better. Keep your pecker up, just start recounting. Maybe these latest bleeds will be our last! xx

[Machair]

ER I think you must still be making oestrogen in surges, as it is the falls from high to normal or normal to low that cause the sweats I think isn't it? Maybe it is the latter as the mucus has stopped. It must be so horrid to have the migraines so often. My heart goes out to you. Are you going away somewhere nice?

[Elizabethrose]

The science of this is still not confirmed apparently – I was speaking to one of my medic brothers about it the other day.

One of the first signs of peri (for some) can be the development of flushes or night sweats just before a period, when a drop in oestrogen has taken place. I only had night sweats at that stage, my flushes started in March for the first time, two and a half months after a drop in oestrogen. However, he said that it is believed that the width of the thermoregulatory zone is reduced in menopausal women, therefore causing the body to react more violently to very slight changes in temperature or perceived changes in temperature: hot and cold apparently. Well this is my interpretation of what he was saying, sorry brain's disengaged today!

Whilst the drop from an oestrogen high to a low will trigger an onslaught of flushes for me, they sometimes take a while to build. However, as soon as my oestrogen rises they stop immediately. For some women the flushes can continue many years post meno well after the hormone fluctuations have calmed. This must go some way to prove that something other than just a recent oestrogen drop is responsible. It seems it's just another one of those areas that needs further investigation.

I feel sure that my oestrogen hasn't risen this month. There is no evidence that it has and you know how reactive I am.

We have a hidey-hole in Cornwall that we are disappearing to for a couple of weeks. Daughter is flying in to join us for a few days but otherwise, long cliff top walks, pub lunches, an overdose of freshly caught fish and crustaceans and loads of r an r! I don't care what the weather does; I actually prefer wild weather and white water! I really can't wait!

Thank you for your kind words Machair, you are a sweetie! Sorry I'm a bit mis today, supposed to be having lunch with my mother - yet another days plans scuppered! I'll pick up later I'm sure! xx

[Machair]

This is so interesting ER and food for thought. I have never had the hot flushes in the day yet. As you say though some women have the sweats many years after their last period so there must be more to it that just oestrogen falling.
Holiday sounds perfect have a wonderful time. I am escaping soon too and so looking forward to some Hebridean seascapes.xx

[Elizabethrose]

Thanks Machair, you too! x

[Elizabethrose]

Sparkle, don't you mean I go on and on! 

Yep that offer of leek and potato soup would have been accepted gleefully. I have had the usual migraine carb cravings today and eaten the most ridiculous succession of available foodstuffs. Sticky rice with satay sauce, reheated sauté potatoes, spinach and pea soup, toasted rye sour dough and I've just made a Hotel Chocolate drinking chocolate, what the heck?? I'm in the dark, munching like some maniacal vampire!

Meds took the edge off earlier but the pesky phantom smell has kicked in so I think it's going to rebound; complete bummer! Given I've now used up a tablet day I'll take the second if I need to.

Well whatever, it's boring but it's been a billion times worse. Mañana! xx

[Machair]

Sparkle thank you for asking. No it hasn't - I had one day of a tiny pink show on 9th October and several days of maybe yellow/brown almost nothing and still just PMT raging- no relief and no real period either- yet that is!

Hebrides at the end of the month so not long.

How are you Sparkle?

Carb craving is hitting me too ER! Went out for lunch with hubby and was going to have a healthy soup but the cafe was being refitted, and only thing on offer was scones and cream. Good excuse so had that instead. Wanted hot chocolate but their machine was also out of action just for the day- shame as I would have had cream and marshmallows with that too!

Hope you feel better ER - it must be hell.
 

[Elizabethrose]

Thank you ladies. Just snuffling through the fridge like a piglet seeking out more carbs! I think I'd be better off in my bed! Why do some migraines give you a touch of the munchies, I've never found an answer to that one? Specialists said it has nothing to do with blood sugar levels. This'll be me by the time hubby gets home! 

[Elizabethrose]

      You are such good value Sparkle, you totally crack me up! If you could see what I look like this evening, I think he'd more likely be dry heaving in the corner!

Eating nuts now and debating making banana custard. Woe it's bad today! x

[Elizabethrose]

No I do not look like that, for sure! Given up on the idea of any more food, up in my bed now. Thank you for making me smile today, it does lighten the load! x

[elainediva]

hi ladies sorry i havent been around for a bit- busy with mums appointments at hospital and doctor
i saw my doctor and she says im moving in the right direction and just keep my diary with my spotting episodes
still havent had a period only the little spotting and im on 147 days now
i just started some spotting today again caught me out should have known there was something i needed chocolate yesterday
had some last week on my birthday and that was the first for 4 weeks but last night i was desperate and opened the christmas
tin and ate 4 sweets working hard not to eat anymore of it
hope you are all ok i will try and catch up with the posts here tomorrow

[Machair]

Elainediva that is exactly the way I am - all the PMT symptoms, including chocolate addiction at times, but periods just spotting lately! I forget are you mid fifties? 

[Elizabethrose]

      Spooky!

I had a dream the other night that CLKD came for tea and she was very specific about how she liked it served! Where the heck does this stuff come from?

Very bruised today ladies (kicked by a donkey!), thank you both for your support yesterday. x

[Elizabethrose]

Hi Elaine, good to hear from you. All sounds good with you, such brilliant news.

Are you counting your spotting as a cycle or period of sorts? We've discussed this frequently on this thread. My docs have said that I have to go one whole year without any loss before I can be classified as meno so at this rate that's not going to be any time soon! What did your doc say to you? What symptoms are you getting now?

Hope your mum is feeling well - you sound like a good daughter! x

[Elizabethrose]

It's down to about a 3 which is brilliant after yesterdays 8. Though 'bruised' I feel great today, it's always such a relief to open my eyes and realise it's diminished. I had a brilliant sleep last night with only one sweat which woke me at about 6.15am so that's when I got up!

Washing machine is going like the clappers, dishwasher load done and emptied and I'm now cooking a vat of bolognese. It makes me feel wonderful to actually achieve anything after a day like yesterday! Of course I'm more than aware if I push too hard today it's likely to rebound so it's an easy day at home and I've cancelled the days plans.
 
You're right though, some postdromes are a nightmare, for me that's usually after a 3 day mig!

Have a lovely day Sparkly girl! x