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[Mandz]

Panda : I'm lying here in my bed, just waiting for shower to be free.... I'm a bit weepy this morning, was trying to ask DH if he's "fed up" of all this, he said no it's just how it is just now, but it was unconvincing......I know him well enough ..... I really feel for him,
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Ahhhh well I'll get my gel today, and see what today has in store xxx

[CLKD]

Why NOT believe your husband    what do you want him to say? 

When I feel guilty Himself says 'it is what it is' ……… this too will pass ;-)

Was the GP supportive?

[Mandz]

I know CLKD.... Just being mega hypersensitive I suppose....

Had quite a nice day in the end, sun was out, but still brass monkeys..... We just went a run in the car, and had Chinese this evening and I actually properly watched a film...." Time travellers wife".... Lovely film, but I properly cried at the end but it was a "relief cry" if there is such a thing......

But I must tell u : my meds are now 15mg mirtazapiine before bed..... And a diazepam......and I made a booboo, picked up my escitralopram (for morning) and took it by mistake.....oh well, it's Saturday evening, could have been worse!!!!!

Sparkle : I'm not getting the gel till tues......would you believe,6chemists in our town, no-one had it ......so they've had to order it in 

Panda: she said I could apply it to my arms or shoulders or inner thighs.... Again, it may sound daft, but is any of the options the best recommended site or is it just ur own preference?

Love m xxx

[Hurdity]

Glad you are feeling better Mandz - little by little you should see an improvement!

Re the gel - it depends which one you've been given - Sandrena (the sachets) say apply to lower part of body but Oestrogel suggest arms shoulders or inner thighs but not on or near the breasts. I am puzzled by the difference between the two, as the patches also only give below the waist as application sites.

However the most important thing aside from not near breasts is that skin contact (where you applied the gel) with anyone else (and also pets) should be avoided for at least one hour after application to avoid transference - so the time of day you apply it might affect where you decide to apply it - eg perhaps not on your thighs at night. I don't use oestrogel but from what I've read many women apply it in the morning probably for this reason.  (I use Tesosterone gel and apply this in the morning). I'm sure someone else will be along with advice on this - but if not you could start a new thread in the Menopause section specifically about the gel if you want?

Hopefully when you are feeling better on it you might be able to gradually stop some of the other meds! (The diazepam are addictive I understand).

Good luck with it all

Hurdity x

[Mandz]

Hi hurdity

Ahhhh all that makes sense..... Thank you for reply,

Yes diazepam meant to be highly addictive,I told the pyciatrist, although I was prescribed 3x a day, I was only taking 1or 2 at a push..... He said if I was happy with that that was fine, but I really only want to take before bed to help ease the churned up knotted feeling in mornings

Lots of love m xx

[CLKD]

Does it work for you?  Then use as necessary?

[Mandz]

Yes CLKD, thank-u, I know it seems daft, all these thoughts n feelings going on inside..... But sometimes just someone saying what you've just said makes it seem...alright!!!

I'm really good at giving advice or trying to be helpful, and I do take advice on board..... But I just struggle so hard with the thought of not being at work ---- although I must admit it's not so hard as it was.....

On a more positive note..... Although I still couldn't face going to our local asda,i went to out of town one....I made chops, potatoes and veg for evening meal tonight, ......and I did some ironing.....

Slowly slowly xxxx

[CLKD]

Little steps.  When I had counselling in the 1990s I would come home and talk about the sessions: Himself would tell me "I told you all that, why doesn't it work when I tell you?"     When I offered 'listening/counselling' over the 'phone he would shout "Pity you don't  take your own advice!" 

Because I knew that the Valium: and now the current emergency pill: works, then I take it as necessary.  I no longer go into panic mode in case I'm left high and dry without anything to ease the anxiety.

Once you get used to being at home, you'll be more relaxed.  If you had 'flu etc. ;-)

[ruthae]

Hi Mandz

Thanks for pm, but I need to make a few more posts until I can respond direct.  Glad to hear you are on the up and thanks for your support

Rx

[Mandz]

I could reply straight away

Top right hand corner of private message

M xxx

[Mandz]

Bless him... My son got home from being at his girlfriends for a few days.... He's bought me a book The Secret by Rhonda Byrne ....anyone read it??


Anyway I've been awake since around 8.... And been trying to motivate myself to get up, Monday morning, and feeling guilty at not going to work.... But  I know it's silly, just can't seem to shake it off ..... 

Xx

[Justjules]

Yes, read The Secret - it's quite good - full of positivity and doing gratitude exercises (that's if you do them and don't just read the book like me  ).  I had also read Louise Hay's book - You can Change Your Life, which is more or less the same theme.  It's worth a read though.

x

[Mandz]

I just thought that was the sweetest thing-bless him xx

Well I've got up and I've hoovered properly downstairs and washed my kitchen floor--- it's a bit of a start
.........  And ohhhh to my shame I found a tub of cream in my fridge dated 27/12/15.... It made me smile as well as cringe 

Love m x

[ruthae]

Hi

It is little acts of kindness like that that make a real difference to your day.

A colleague gave me a book to read 'The Chimp Paradox' which explains why we react to situations either as a Chimp or a Human - and how we can control the bits of our brains that tell us what is appropriate.  It was very interesting, gave me an insight in to why I am flying off the handle at the moment - only problem is the same rules of self help don't apply when your hormones are all over the place.  Still worth a read - had some stuff on confidence etc too.  We should write a book - The Hormonal Chimp Paradox'!?

Mandz, I still can't pm - (top right just gives me option to remove message) will keep posting and see what happens!

Rx

[CLKD]

You haven't been here long enough to send PMs? 

Do we have a MM Forum Library now then