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[GypsyRoseLee]

That's interesting. I didn't have any breast tenderness on Microgynon, or any vaginal dryness either. Had quite a few spots during the first 1.5 packs but that cleared up. Did have constant brown spotting too, every day from the end of the 1st pack right through to when I stopped taking it toward the end of the 3rd pack.

In that time I also had 2 break through bleeds. The first was during the 2nd pack, only lasted 2 days and was quite light. But the 2nd one started halfway through the 3rd pack, lasted 6 days and was quite heavy, with fresh red flow and cramps.

Plus the whole time I had very low libido. When I had that 10 day break between Microgynon and Gederal I noticed my libido came back quite strongly within 5-6 days.

I think I am a person who needs quite a high level of oestrogen, more than your average woman. In the year before my peri menopause started, I noticed that when I ovulated I felt incredibly chilled and happy, to the point of feeling almost drugged with it.

And once peri started, the only time I got any reprieve from my symptoms was mid month when I ovulated. Then there were the really bad months when I don't think I ovulated at all. That was brutal.

[Dorothy]

Dorothy, Ovranette is another name for Microgynon. It's the first choice to be prescribed as it's the cheapest and one of the safer combined pills. However, it is also the least estrogenic. That's why it would not be as good for anyone already low in estrogen. Despite me having a higher than average risk factor, my GP agreed that an estogenic pill was the better  starting point for me.

This explains it better than I can!  (See page two) x


http://www.avongpeducation.co.uk/handouts/2012/youngpersons/The%20pill%20ladder.pdf

Thanks Briony, that is really helpful - I had a lot of the estrogen excess symptoms before going on the pill, so if I've understood the document correctly it sounds like Ovranette was a good choice for me.

[Briony]

Dorothy, that would make sense. It would be the perfect choice if you wanted less estrogenic effects. It highlights how different our bodies are - one size certainly does not fit all.  I wonder, as you get nearer menopause, if you'll need a different formula? Or whether your body will always prefer a more progesterone dominant pill?

[Chi chi]

Day 6

Woke feeling a bit on edge but this soon went. Was still quite up and down in terms of mood, it really is odd how within the space of an hour my mood can be so different  Anyway things improved again by evening. Not much else to report really.

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[Briony]

Know just what you mean - it amazes me how my moods can change within hours - I can go from energetic to lethargic, or angry to sobbing, within hours! Has to be hormones as before I was boringly consistent!

[Chi chi]

  Briony I'm sure you weren't 

[Briony]

I guess DP would say I could 'have my moments'    x

[Chi chi]

Day 7

Well another down day today and a bit more anxious than the last few days too 
If I'm honest I'm wondering if this was all such a good idea  I know it's still very early days but still doesn't make it any easier, just hoping and praying for some good/better days.
I still find myself doubting if it's all hormone related, God I hate these kinds of days 
On a good note I've hardly had any headaches.

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[GypsyRoseLee]

It's so early yet, it really is. During my first month on Microgynon I was very up and down, a real mixed bag of mood swings and anxiety. Just like you I doubted it was going to help me.

But Briony was incredibly supportive and helped me through because she was several months ahead of me on Qlaira. As I went into the 2nd pack things changed very much for the better. I had a very positive run of nearly 3 weeks of 'good' days.

I know it's so wearying when all you want is some peace of mind, but do try and stick with it for at least a few more weeks.

[Chi chi]

Thanks GRL, I do plan to continue, I've got to or I'll never know?
I was reading back on your original diary and you seemed to do well at the very beginning, this kind of knocked me as I've only had 1 or 2 days of feeling ok 
Wondering if I'm reacting to the prog already or maybe because I'm not having as much estrogen?? Feels a bit to soon to be messing about with adding in Oestrogel at the moment? But on the other hand is it? So frustrating 

[Chi chi]

It's just dawned on me again! I posted a while ago asking if anyone had tried the Charles Linden Programme, Id been feeling particularly anxious/down at the time. Exactly 3 weeks later I posted again asking if it was a coincidence/pms that I was feeling anxious and down again. Well it's nearly 3 weeks again and here I am feeling anxious and down again  There's got to be a link? Maybe it is pms and the Yaz hasn't wiped out all my own hormones yet??
Hopefully in another 3 weeks time the Yaz will have done so and I won't get this dip?

[GypsyRoseLee]

Hi Chi

When I very first started on Microgynon I had just come out of a run of 5-6 'bad' days, so I was likely to have been feeling fine again for a while regardless of whether I had started taking the BCP or not.

And yes, I think timing is playing an important role here for you. Seems like this is happening to you, cyclically, on a roughly 3 week cycle.

This is roughly how I am too. 2 - 2.5 good weeks, followed by a couple of iffy days, followed by a real dip of 4-5 days, then back to the 'good' days.

[Chi chi]

Day 8

Didn't sleep very well due to hubby snoring! Felt a bit up and down all day really, not quite as bad but still noticeable. Seemed to be more down for the first half of the day then improved by evening.
Wondering if the 3 week mood dips are PMT??

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[GypsyRoseLee]

As my peri started I noticed my cycle suddenly shortened to 24/25 days rather than 28. So it makes sense to me that my 'bad days' seem to arrive every 2.5-3 weeks.

Maybe the same for you?

[Chi chi]

I've never suffered with pmt but I've always been on the pill so I suppose that would have hidden it?

Day 9

Woke feeling a bit anxious, shaky and jittery, this continued most of the day, generally just feel miserable and not being able to enjoy things. I've been trying to get on with doing things I usually enjoy but half way through I just feel like what's the point? My libido has also gone Awol!
Hope this lifts soon 

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