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[Sammiejane]

hi alicess

oh i know this trial and error is so tiring i had to give up work because all this since going on hrt has consumed my life before i started it i got on with things just thought what will be will be and at the moment i'm ill infact that another negative i've found since introducing hormones is that i'm always ill i know everything can't be blamed on hormones by it's funny how all my aches and pains hairloss mood fluctuation headaches depression and aniexty have all started since taking hrt !

[Ladybt28]

It would be so much easier if GP practices (or if there were specialist meno clinics in practices or specialist nurses) provided regular hormone testing on a regular basis.  Therefore if you were having problems you could go and get your bloods done twice a week for 8 weeks which would give a least a bit of picture of what the body was doing on an individual basis.

I have never ever had any blood tests done since starting hrt at 45 and I am now 57.  I was on the "wrong hrt for 8 years which hardly did anything to help me but I didn't know that at the time and then it took 3 years of swapping and changing to get the right hrt and then 7 months for that to "settle" and start working as it should (or as good as it's gonna get). I have now been on the "right hrt" for 14 months.

I too had anxiety so bad I was certifiable, aches and pains so bad I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia (but it isn't, its hormonal), insomnia that I could go 48 hours without sleeping, left sided migraines in my face amongst a whole host of other things.  They have nearly all gone or have dialled down from a plus 10 to about a 2 on scale.  I am better than I have been in 20 years (turns out the hormonal problems were there before meno which was why it was so bad).  But through all this not one blood test or any real help at all.  I had to sort it out for myself.

[Sammiejane]

ladtbt28

thank i for your post it makes me feel i am not going insane !

and this is my point it just so happens that the gp forgot to test me for SHBG so i had to have my blood test redone 10 days apart and on this it showed estrogen level fluctuate 368 to 113 now i'm not peri have no ovaries i shouldn't be fluctuation and this is why i feel crap but my argument with menopause is that if i had , had the blood test done the second week only and gave them the results at follow up they would of said based on 113 nmol/L that i'm not obsorbing the gel and can't perscribe T swap to patch yet because the reading week before was 368 they gave me testosterone but i'm concerned how it's up and down not only the estrogen but relative to other hormones . i'll do what they say but if no improvement i've decided i'm coming off it i'm only 40 but i'm going to feel like this for next 10 years and end up bald or very overweight

[Sammiejane]

hi tracey e

how are things going huni since you stopped the estrogel you mentioned your hair loss stopped is that still the case ?

have your started any other form of hrt ?

we're you just taking estrogel on its own ?

[Hurdity]

Hi sammiejane - Tracey E has left the forum so  unfortunately won't be able to reply to your question. I think if you look back a couple of pages in this thread she has mentioned this and we have replied.

Hurdity x

[Sandie71]

Hi everyone newbie here and would appreciate some advice/guidance if anyone can help please. Age 48 last period around January this year. Been taking 2 pumps of estrogel and 25/28 days of Utrogestan for just over a month now.

I've been experiencing really bad hip/joint/back and neck pain since starting. Does anyone know if this normal? If so, is it likely to continue or ease off as my body adjusts to the treatment? Thank you

[Anaise]

hi alicess

oh i know this trial and error is so tiring i had to give up work because all this since going on hrt has consumed my life before i started it i got on with things just thought what will be will be and at the moment i'm ill infact that another negative i've found since introducing hormones is that i'm always ill i know everything can't be blamed on hormones by it's funny how all my aches and pains hairloss mood fluctuation headaches depression and aniexty have all started since taking hrt !

Sounds just like me Sammie.

[Sammiejane]

hi anaise

i did PM you x

how are you finding your hair shedding now since stopping the estrogel ?

are you on a different hrt ?

[Anaise]

hi anaise

i did PM you x

how are you finding your hair shedding now since stopping the estrogel ?

are you on a different hrt ?

Sorry Sammie I haven't checked my pm's. No I'm not taking anything at the moment. My hair a started to grow back, so I'm happy about that.

[Anaise]

You are also very stressed Sammie and stress creates exactly the right conditions for inflammation and lowered immunity so you'll get sicker for longer, and more often. And it can cause hair to shed. And you are less likely to find balance anywhere when you're upset most of the time.

This is very negative reply Birdy. What's your excuse for your problems with HRT? I hazzard a guess it won't be the Estrogen causing it.

[Sammiejane]

hi anaise

if you don't mind me asking what age were you when u had your hysterectomy and ovaries removed?

i've stopped my estrogel and it's day 8 now but my hair hasn't shed till this morning , i'm going to give it a little longer and see , so far i feel ok couple of hot flushes at night although manageable it's my sleep which is effected x i'm only 40 and can't be on it 10 years with hair shedding i'll be bold x i don't know what to do go back on gel and take progesterone and testosterone too just for balance or try a patch x

[Anaise]

hi anaise

if you don't mind me asking what age were you when u had your hysterectomy and ovaries removed?

i've stopped my estrogel and it's day 8 now but my hair hasn't shed till this morning , i'm going to give it a little longer and see , so far i feel ok couple of hot flushes at night although manageable it's my sleep which is effected x i'm only 40 and can't be on it 10 years with hair shedding i'll be bold x i don't know what to do go back on gel and take progesterone and testosterone too just for balance or try a patch x

Hi, I was 48 years old Sammie.

[Sammiejane]

hi anaise

had you been on hrt before you started the gel ?

did u have ovaries removed also x

what age are you now ? because if you can manage the symtoms and you are normal menopause age ie 51/52 then you could go hrt free, with me being only 40 i'm way off so need to be on something i guess x i'm taking vaginal ovestin to keep things at bay down there and i guess i don't feel to bad not on hrt x such a whirlwind i have to say and never expected it at such a young age

[Anaise]

hi anaise

had you been on hrt before you started the gel ?

did u have ovaries removed also x

what age are you now ? because if you can manage the symtoms and you are normal menopause age ie 51/52 then you could go hrt free, with me being only 40 i'm way off so need to be on something i guess x i'm taking vaginal ovestin to keep things at bay down there and i guess i don't feel to bad not on hrt x such a whirlwind i have to say and never expected it at such a young age

Estrogel and before Evorel patches, I've had a full hysterical ectomy no eimb ir ovaries. I'm older than you Sammie so it's not imperative I keep on the Estrogen. I just couldn't cope with losing anymore hair which is why I've come off it. Glad to report that my hair is growing back and no further losses. Hope you find a solution soon.

[Sammiejane]

hi anaise

did you shed hair on the everol patches prior to the estrogen ?

u mention if i read it correct u have no ovaries  . did you ever try progesterone. x

i've got blood test tomorrow morning as my GP is going to test my progesterone and estrogen again and then go from there what hrt i take at the moment i'm not on anything x