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[Suzi Q]

Well yesterday I got the train to the other side of town going through the city to see the Chiro backs s... to s... again
About 5 stops from where I live 2 late teens got on and started swearing f and c words
Man turned around and asked them politley to not use that language train comp was roughly half full
They then started to swear louder more obcene now I was sitting on an angle cos of my back and i could see them
One of them jumped up shouting f c gonna get you and sat next to a young girl trying to intimidate her and the man
She was sitting behined hm now I saw this and looke at the other lad he got somethng out of his pocket and I thought OH god hes going to attack this fella from behind now the train had stopped so up I jump left my bags and shoved my head outside and shouted for a GUARD One leapt on the train and I pointed to the lads and said these little bsds
They are swearing and using threatening behavioue well OH MY GOD these 2 went for me like the devil was inside them
Anger incandecent rage Ive never seen anythng like it in my life now I see why some pool peope get stomped to death
They were being held by 4 guards they were screaming abuse at me thed totaly forgotten the man now all they could see was someone had made them responasable theyw ere screaming weve got fk concession card YOU cant thwrow us of the train DOLE of course amebos these 2 were a perfect reason for the big A slime scum of the earth
Their faces showed you they came from the bottom of the gene pool They just couldnt get it someoe had not been scared and not just sat there like a stuffed dummy Then a NIgerian guard came up to me and said I was causing the trouble I said pardon theyve just said they are going to find me rape me kill me and Im the trouble I wont tell you what I said to him it maybe construed as being rasicist which it wasnt but some people are touchy He didnt go to the aid
He ran off the train saw him leggin it in to the pay booth So story goes on by thios time they were spitting gobs of u n
Kicking screaming It was beyong beleif they dragged them off the train and gurad shouted to me sit down which i was anyway they shut the doors NOW imagine if you will Im in the window seat they are on the platform
One of them takes a run at the train and literaly punches the window where I sat IT CRACKED
If that had been my face it would have had every bone broken in it we pulled out everyone but me was shaken
Now I no hero but I honestly thought they were going to attack the man and guess what he said nothng
While they were screaming hatred at me he sat with his head downcast The girl came and sat with me she was shaking
25 years ago entire carrige would have thrown lads on the floor and well u know NOT today people actually ignored it
Guard came up to me and said theyd called the police but hadnt been able to hold the lads theyd scarpered
So Ive been told by hubbie and son I cant use the train for a few weeks and as much as I hate to agree I do sad hey
IM A CURPHEY GIRL EVEN AT MY AGE YAYYYYYYYYY Clever or plain bloody stupid? latter I think xxxxxxx(maiden name)

[Rowan]

Horrified Suzi, and I though all teenagers in Australia were like the ones in Neighbours.

That experience was enough to give you Post Traumatic Stress!

Sorry your back pain is back.

[CLKD]

You did what I probably would have done.  Acted instintively.  At least the girl came to sit by you, maybe the man was too shocked to say anything, we don't know what problems he has.  I would probably have stood up and asked if everyone else was OK, in order to break the ice.

But to blame you! ......... 

[Taz2]

I wondered about CCTV too and I am sure the guy would have had to have some medical attention to his hand. To break a train window with a hand is some feat and would probably have caused fractures. I'm afraid I wouldn't have taken them on - too many knives carried nowadays but well done you Suzi.

Taz x

[Suzi Q]

Thanks girls xxxxx
But it was stupid really it was just instinct I honestly thought they were going to attack him
Shock hit today though as in the old Betas came out not for anything id done it was of all things the window
I kept tihnking what if hed managed to get to me BUT he didnt so there ya go
I dont kow if the man was in shock I tink the carriage was cos I forgot to say when I shouted through the carriage door for a GUARDDDDDDDDDD I came in they screamed at me and gulp
I screamed back at them called them I think ? Get off the train you 2 bloody ignorant pigs and I  did scream it hehehe
Taz He must have damaged his hand the widow bent in and a small crack apeared it was a mighty thud
Hope he bust his hand But today I thought they didnt get to me but bet they battered some poor sod last  xxxxx

[honeybun]

Sad to say I would have turned the other way too. I am just too wary about knives.
Do you think they could have been on drugs?

You were lucky that you could call a guard even though they did not react the way you expected.

There was a case in this country a few years ago when a man on a train restrained a youth who was kicking off.
He was the one who was charged with assault. It's little wonder people don't want to get involved.

Honeyb
X

[Suzi Q]

Hun
for me its instinct call it my celtic Curphey or NIcholson call it my years in the Royal Navy with GUNS in Nrth Ireland
I dont kow I just did it didnt give a thought till today of the consequences I never did
I walked out of a pub in the 70s 5mins later it blew up killing quite afew service and civillian people
 if id gone for a wee if Id had another ciggie If Id gne to the lavatory? Who knows
I was the same at 20 as now Mum used to say I never thought she was right.
It wasnt brave it was stupid but I swear I didnt even think of the consequences for one moment I jsut did it
That is the Service training adrenaline switches on but I am  nearer 60 even if I am size 12
AND look at least 5 years or more younger than my cousins and 10 compared to Ozzies (the sun)
Would I do it again probably Im an idiot hehehehe
They had something simmin Ozz a few years back someone went in and rescued someone from a kicking and kocked out attacker They too were charged BUT they elected to go to trial and no jury would convict them

[Firewalker50]

Suzi - you did what everyone would like to be able to do but do not for fear of reprisal and weapons.

I don't know what I would have done if I am honest.  I might have wished I was a million miles away, or watched some bullying, but I genuinely do not think I could have watched someone being beaten up beside me.  A you say, you did what you felt was instinctively right. 

I think it is shocking but a modern day phenomenon that people are scared to get into something that is 'not their business' in case they are injured or killed.   Weapons are frightening and unless visible are an unknown factor.  Television portrays the same violence with people killed.   People are afraid, stay back and so the violence is perpetuated.

I was sorry to read you had had such a reaction Suzi.  You must have been shaken up inside, even if not visibly.  Shame on the man who stood back and let you take the flack.  I wondered if he was frozen with fear like many others might be.   I am pleased the woman / girl came to sit beside you afterwards.

I think your husband is right - avoid the trains for a while, and let's hope their was CCTV and the police can find them.  Sounds like they might already be known to the police.

On a similar note, my daughter when she was 13 had gone to visit her friend's grandmother and was stayovernight.   She joined her friend and a group of friends in the very closeby park.   While sitting laughing and chatting, a crazed girl came up, caught her from behind and assaulted her badly.  She was kicked, punched, her head smashed off benches and climbing frame.  The girl was crazed with drugs.   She could not get away despite three of the crowd trying to pull the girl off her.  It was a tall young rugby player who saw it from nearby who leapt the fence and had the strength to tackle her and get my daughter released.  She ran like the wind.  He literally saved her.   Another girl was attacked in a phone box and her head and body kicked and jumped on so much that she ended up paralysed in hospital (her Mum traced me and phoned me).  It was a debacle trying to get the police to find her and deal with her.  She was 15 and in so much trouble with a very bad family home background.  In the end, my daughter did not need to testify.  They dealt with her under other charges.  (I cannot remember the exact detail).

But like you did Suzi, my daughter may not have been alive if it had not been for someone having the courage to intervene.   I am sure the man will reflect and appreciate what you did for him.

Fx

[CLKD]

In the 1970s I saw a man being beaten up in an alley by 2 other men, we were in a coach going to Wimbledon - the lads in our coach were cheering them on  - to this day I wish I had jumped off the coach and helped    ............ same as when I saw a dog being kicked in the street, that day I did say something.  I quietly went up to the lad and asked 'is she being particularly naughty today?' and he sighed.  It seemed that he wanted her to 'sit' on command but she didn't know how.  So I walked her up and down, giving her bum a little touch so that she put it to the pavement.  He watched in amazement.  I then spoke to him in Welsh  (by this time he had calmed down) - then told him that he might as well tell her commands in Russian and she wouldn't understand, that there needed to be a certain amount of gentle guidance.  We then walked up and down the pavement as he practised: by which time DH was driving round and round 'the block' looking for me  until he got the hang of it.  He agreed to go to the Vets./Pet shops to see if there were training courses in the locality.

[lily]

That's horrific Suzi, I think out of outrage I would have had to say something - but what a world when we then have to fear for our own safety. 

[Elena]

Suzi how awful, now I understand your other post.  Well done for doing what you did.  Lucky the train was at station but that guard beggars belief.

CLKD that was a brilliant response.

[CLKD]

It was that or take the pup away  - but people when scared get angry.  He probably felt that the pup was 'showing him up in public'  .  These reactions can't be planned or we wouldn't be brave at the time.

  for SuziQ

[Limpy]

Suzi you did so so well.
The young girl came to sit with you, she obviously appreciated your bravery, you must have made her feel better.
I don't think I would have had your guts - well done

[Firewalker50]

Bet the dog was glad you intervened CLKD.  Great result!

Fx

[CLKD]

Thanks.  I hope that the young lad managed to find the support they both needed.  If I see violence to any animal  I'm in there!

How are you today SuziQ?