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[paisley]

I am sort of getting used to the heat but sometimes it gets over 40 and I hate that as I feel so drained. If I feel bad the heat just makes me feel worse but if I feel ok then it is fine. Sorry for moaning about heat when it has rained so much in U.K.
I have never tried the transbuccal but I have been on survivors guide to the menopause and there is some info on there about it, it says it is quite successful.
I have also tried the oestrogel, wasn't that good for me cos it seemed to give me lots more fluctuations but others have taken it and felt great. I wish there was 1 thing that just worked for everyone. Hate that all our bodies are different and that things work well for some and not others.
The specialist you are going to see must have seen all sorts of different cases of people struggling with hrt.

[Anne B]

Paisley
40 degrees is a bit much to handle at the best of times. I've got the heating on! Mind you I think it's just the way I am at the moment with the chills. Don't seem to get hot but sweating with chills - unbelievable!
Can't believe how hormones can cause so many different symptoms. Feel as if I've turned into a hypochondriac.

[paisley]

Hate hormones and what they do to us. I have had nearly 3 weeks of feeling okish then bam feel just as bad again. Feel so weepy tonight. There is no rythme or reason to it. Now I am think the last 2 nights I went to bed really late and a bit too much to drink on Sat night so wondering if I feel worse cos of that. I have to have an answer all the time on why I feel the way I do. It is horrible to be like this isn't it cos you never know how you are going to feel from 1 day to the next although I usually see it coming over a few days.

[Anne B]

Hopefully tomorrow will be much better Paisley. We live in hope.

[paisley]

I think that I always have wanted answers for things. Today I have basically cried all day. Had to go in a supermarket and was wondering if I could get around and out without crying. I had to stop B vits, magnesium and vit D a couple of weeks ago cos ran out and didn't know where I could get some more cos of Spain but found some and I kept thinking I feel this bad cos I stopped them, now I will be convinced cos in Spain I can't get 2mg of progynova and will have to take 2 x 1mg in morning and 1mg at night that this will somehow have an effect on me as well. Gosh I felt so so weepy today, I think I will have to try and find someone here in Spain, I have already searched but can't find any specialist meno experts. I am okayish for a couple of weeks then suddenly feel awful again.

[Bette]

Have you thought of emailing Dr Currie, paisley?
Bette x

[mac]

Hi Paisley

Really sorry to hear your having a bad time at the moment.  Hope you feel better tomorrow.  I think Bette's suggestion is good.  You would be able to get an expert's opinion.

I'm also like you in that I have to know what causes what as it allows me to deal with it, but also sometimes I think the meno throws so many different problems at us that there is not always an easy answer or solution.  Don't blame yourself for trying to have a normal life you could have felt like this even if you didn't have a drink or stay up late.

A very big hug from me.

Macxxx

[paisley]

Thanks Bette and mac, yes I have spoke to Dr Currie and she recommended Estradot patch and to start with a 50 and see how that goes, she also said to watch diet and eat more veg and salads and less sugar as sugar is bad for meno symptoms and recently I have had a sugar surge. I am so wary of starting anything new cos of side effects but first I need to get a doctor here and see if they do Estradot here.
I really would like a few months of normality, whatever that is.

[Anne B]

Hi Paisley
I'm so sorry you feel so rubbish. Had a wee bit of a greety day myself.
Hope you can get Estradot because it is a really good wee patch. It's discreet and sticks well. OK, I'm on the 100mcg patch and oestrogen still low but nothing is ever straightforward for me!
Many women swear by it so it is definitely worth a go.
Good luck and take care.

[paisley]

I have an appointment with a gynae on Friday in Spain, the only prob is he charges 110 euros, which is about £80, I cant have many of those. My OH had a good idea why don't I have oestrogen tests done when I feel good and bad and see what the difference is so I am going to ask him that or if not you can order the tests online. I know you have to try new hrt but cos I have tried a few I am sort of thinking really negative about it and thinking if the others did no good then the new one wont either. Still feeling weepy today and so tired, I sometimes feel that this is going to be my life now and so confused to what to do next, feel stuck. I am trying to work it out logically but it isn't that easy, there is something making me feel like this, only wish I knew what it was. I think the longer you feel like this the harder it is to think positive.
Thanks for your replies

[Anne B]

Paisley
Sorry to hear you are still struggling. In my experience oral HRT didn't work for me - oest level way too low but I also felt as if I had fluctuations which my body did not like one bit. Have you considered a patch which should give a trickle dose with possibly less chance of fluctuations?
Hopefully the gyn person will be able to give you good direction.

[paisley]

Thanks AnneB,
                     yes, I think that will be my next option as I do think the oral hrt does gives me too many fluctuations. There is a family next door and they are having so much fun in the pool and do you know they are really annoying me cos I feel so awful. I keep looking at other women and they are coping perfectly ok and then I look at me and wonder why I don't. Life at mo seems so self absorbed in meno and looking on the internet. Hate doing it but can't help myself, I think it is a woman's way of trying to fix things.

[Anne B]

Feel the same as you Paisley.
My neighbours kids are out in the garden playing and it sounds like an army is out there. No tolerance for the noise and how dare they enjoy themselves!
I had to sit and listen to my neighbour today telling me that she breezed through the menopause and really I should be getting over it and going back to work. The fact that she reduced me to tears didn't seem to bother her. Tried to tell her that I was also coping with post-op pain as well but she shrugged and said that plenty of women have hysterectomies without problems. True, just wish I was one of them.
Don't think I'll be entering into any conversations with her again.

Went for a walk and spoke to a wee lady who sits in her garden down the back lane. We've become quite friendly. I was moaning about myself again then as I was leaving she told me she had just been diagnosed with cancer of the ear (unusual I would think). Felt so guilty because I feel I am so self obsessed by menopause I must bore the living daylights out of everybody and they have their own trials and tribulations as well. Went home and had another good bubble to myself. Can't control my emotions anymore.

I think you should give the patches a go Paisley.
Good Luck

[paisley]

Arrhhh AnneB, at least we know how it feels and I bet you felt like hitting your neighbour, I would have been so tempted. How dare she say that to you, you are struggling like me and don't need that sort of criticism from anyone. I wish she had it for a week and see how she would feel. A hysterectomy is about physical and mental and I don't think people appreciate how bad it is, it messes with your body as well as your hormones. I don't think you should feel guilty and I know it very sad for the old lady (never heard of that cancer either) but you aren't feeling right either and I think emotional things are just as bad as physical. Don't be hard on yourself. I think it is only natural to be obssessed with it as it something that affects everything we do. If we had a broken arm we could still carry on because it isn't affecting us mentally. I can't seem to spell anymore.
Think you are right about patches and I am really hoping FRiday with meno clinic has a good outcome, I am sure they will be able to

[Anne B]

Thanks Paisley. Hope you have a good evening.
Take care.