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[endoftether]

Hi all, wee update. Started on Adcal D3 at beginning of June and am now pain free! Woohoo. one in morn one at night. What a difference. Jx

[Bckquine]

Am using extra strong deep heat on my sore neck and shoulders, smells really lovely (not), but it seems to be working for now!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jayb]

I have read through this thread with great interest.

Last night and today still, I am soooo achey. Was doing some room clearance yesterday, some furniture to skip etc. I am 53 on Saturday. I was taking HRT whilst peri in 2005, one that gave me a bleed, my periods hadnt stopped but were very scanty, and had flushes, sweats during night etc. Some time later, I was put on femoston conti. I asked GP could the "monthly bleeds" be avoided.  I came off voluntary in March 2009, really to see if my periods had stopped. Was I officially of "the older generation?"  I came off cold turkey. I felt fine untill probably start of 2010. I am suffering a lot of stress this year, (teenage daughter), and also wondered if  I had some crippling muscle disease or something. Tests clear, am told I am post menopausal.  Solution?  Was given HRT again approx 2 weeks ago.

I realise some time is need for treatment to kick in, some say 3 months. I got 3 months supply, and told to go back if any more problems.  

I am going to try menopace with the HRT, after 3 months, try reducing HRT , whilst taking supplement, then some time later, not sure how much time, try supplement alone. I will also try Glucosamine along side too. Unless there is some reason I shouldnt take all 3 together, oh and forgot the evening primrose oil!.

Also time to make greater effort to diet and excercise, I always thought I dont need to!. Plus I am going to invest in decent memory foam bed, after having cheap beds all my life.


Will let you all know how I get on futher down the line.   I am really sick of the meno. In 2009 I thought I would never look back. As I have said on other threads, in my naiviety, I thought the reducing process of the hormones was the problem, and once at zero everything would be fine, never expected symptoms to come back and haunt me, and worse symptoms at that!

[Bckquine]

Hi Jayb, have also just started on HRT after deciding before I became menopausal that I would never, ever go down that route, lol.  How nieve (sp?) was I??  I am feeling very achey today, but not sure if it is me or medication (body not used to this new surge of hormones).  Am hoping it will kick in soon and I will feel like a new woman, lol.  Why are you reluctant to stay on HRT?  Must admit, am not looking forward to 'bleeding' again as I had a mirena coil up until last week and had not had a period for over 5 years!  Will just see how I get on.  Good luck and let us know if your plan works.

[jayb]

hi Bckquine

"Why are you reluctant to stay on HRT?"


I guess the risk factor Bckquine. They can tell me and I can read the studies that the risk is fairly minimal, and that I have to weigh up that risk against the benefits. I have already done 4 yrs HRT, perhaps I could have delayed taking as long as poss. I only know that now though,(unless GP informed me back then and I chose to ignore,didnt fully understand, or cant remember!) but I suppose the symptoms warranted taking it in 2005. I was back in career type employment (Civil Service) after being a mum for some 20 years. I found that change quite stressful in itself without feeling all the meno type stuff.

I'm a worrier, always have been, always seeking reassurance, its a trait I dont like about myself. I've got better as I've got older, but it's still there. The anxiety I am feeling is teen daughter related, but how much of it is meno related, I dont know. I just want to feel "normal" again. There is a pic on here of old lady. I find it scary that I could one day be "that old lady" Care home programmes upset me, I dont want to be old!


Now I'm sure any active fun loving 60 or 70 year old would tell me off for being so silly, but today its how I feel. 

[Bckquine]

Sorry you are feeling so down jayb.  I was never going to take HRT, thought it was not worth the risks, but now I am menopausal, think I would rather have a better quality of life and maybe die a bit younger than live for ever and be a miserable old so and so, lol.  But we are all different.  I am one of the worlds worriers as well, but just keep telling myself, I could get breast cancer, a stroke, heart disease ect anyway, we do not know what is round the corner.  I am a believer that when your time is up you will go and if it is not your time well..........  Think we just have to try and stay positive (not always easy I know)!

[Taz2]

I agree with you BkQ - but can also understand the worries that people have. However, I have lost a very good mate this year to cancer and have two other good friends diagnosed with inoperable bowel and secondary liver cancers. All of these women were/are in their forties and have never taken HRT. It certainly makes you think about these things. It is all a case of balancing up quality of  "now" life.

Taz x

[jayb]

thanks taz and bckquine, both your comments appreciated and needed actually. 


I have woke up today more positive , prepared to "take on the world again", At least I am going to try, small steps, but steps all the same.  And yes, young women, kids, all have been subjected to life threatening disease and other life horrors.

I like the thought , quaility,  now in 50's, maybe there will be nothing to worry about when 60, or if I go onto 70. My Mum died of MND at 64, nothing to do with HRT. We can only deal with cards as dealt eh.

[Witches Cat]

Hello all, like Jayb I too am a terrible worrier, it doesn't take much to send me over the edge, and just lately I've been there again. Lots of aches and pains but they go off if i can stay active (but not over active) Recently during this hot spell my hot flushes have got worse during the day, but i've stopped worrying about them now and just accept them, luckily it's not too bad at night. But... my father in law is 80 this year and not coping with his 1/2 acre of garden, so not having had any gardening to do for 30 yrs, last thursday,hubby and I started trying to tackle it for him. My back and hips are giving me hell, I can hardly move, our boiler packed up at the weekend and so we were humping ladders and stuff about and dragging boards to put ladders on up onto a flat roof, and then I twisted myself and undid all the improvements since friday. I take Menopace plus, cod liver oil caps, primrose oil caps and glucosamine..... and now painkillers and voltarol gel (rubbed in not eaten) Hubby is fed up with my moaning and yesterday told me so... it didn't help.... I am so dreading more gardening and now the new pump for the fishpond has arrived, I've already threatened to fill it in and make a sand pit (huge) for the grand kids, didn't go down well......  So sorry for rambling on like this, all my entries on here these days seem to be a mammoth read...  I'm 55 this year, and I'm really hoping to make it to 56, and the rest, but some days i don't think I'll make it to tea time.

[aliene]

hi dr currie

i was diagnosed with paladromic arthitus 2 yrs ago after suffering with joint pains in wrists and shoulders for a couple of yrs before that...but since my meno syptoms have increased ive found i now have constant joint aches....fingers, elbows, ankles, shoulders, back  and neck....i feel as though my skeleton has ganged up against me...and this makes the feelings of tiredness and fatigue become unbarable at times...especially as hot flushes disturb my sleep most nights....one of the things i hate the most is when lifting things like mugs or kettles causes my fingers to hurt so much...sometimes it does get me down..although i do have support from my partner, i feel stupid asking him to hold my mug for me....i just hope this gets better in time

aliene

[Taz2]

Hi Aliene - welcome to the forum.

Have you had your condition checked recently only the form of arthritis you have can, sometimes, change into rheumatoid arthritis. I think it is important to make sure that things haven't changed. It usually only affects one joint at a time as well - that's why it's called "palindromic" as this means it changes and moves around.

It sounds as if this is causing lots of upset at the moment - I do hope you feel better soon.

Taz x

[Wibbs]

Hi Aliene,

I've had JIA (juevenile rheumatoid arthritis) since the age of 7, but it had been sitting comfortably in remission until last year (aged 43), when it flared up big time.  Fingers, wrists, elbows, shoulders, knees, ankles and feet all flared up and I'm sure it's the inbalance of hormones (peri-meno) that brought it all on.

I'm now well controlled with dmards but left out of control, it can damage your joints.  Best get it checked out with your GP who may refer you to a rheumatologist.  I know exactly the pain you are talking about, and think that some anti-inflams at least, may help ease it a little.  Your inflammation levels can be easily checked by a simple blood test.

Wibbs x

[aliene]

hi wibbs 

i was refered to a rheumatologist before i moved, i saw him 3 times, and was being monitered. hopeing my doctor here will refer me to one close by.

my old one did mention dmards but wanted to see if my syptoms and pain got worse first, i am hopeing this will be the next course of action....admittedly i am concerned with the affect taking dmards for the arthitus has on any hormone treatment i might have to take for the menopause.....although any relief from both would be extremely welcome...all my symptoms and pain did start after my hysterectomy, im now wondering if its arthitus at all or if its just the menopause...its very confusing!

aliene

[Wibbs]

Hi Aliene, I tried many times to ask my rheummy if my arthritis reappearance was linked to my peri symptoms - he just laughed it off but I'm sure it is linked.  I've heard of many women with aching joints who went on to HRT and the joint pain went but he wasn't prepared to let me try it.  My aches and pains definitely get worse just before a period because of the drop on oestrogen.

I was interested to read in Top Sante magazine today that knuckle pain is a sign of the onset of RA.  I had the knuckle pain for months but just blamed it on cutting up squares of carpet for the new guide dog puppy I was training at the time!

Not sure if you could take mtx with HRT but the weaker dmards should be okay - lets hope you don't need to tho'!

Good luck with your new GP!

Wibbs x

[Crabapple]

Oh wow, I have been so enlightened reading all this !!

I have been attending the orthopaedic surgeon for 5 years and never once has he or anyone mentioned menopause to me !??!
I've had a couple of operations and am due to have more, but now I'm thinking I'll maybe not get them

If this arthritis is brought on by the meno, does that mean it will settle down once the meno has finished ??

btw, what does peri meno mean ??