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Author Topic: Mental health crisis  (Read 3320 times)

racjen

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Re: Mental health crisis
« Reply #45 on: September 24, 2020, 07:35:01 PM »

Mary G, I wouldn't have to push for it, it's already been suggested to me by my GP and subsequently a gynaecology consultant. Went away to think about it because the potential risks are quite alarming and I wasn't convinced it would solve the problem. And then Covid happened so it all got shelved anyway...Right now if I could be absolutely certain that a hysterectomy would solve the problem I wouldn't hesitate, but how can I be certain?

And Uptick, yes I'm on Evorel and Provera. Tried Utrogestan and that was far worse.

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CLKD

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Re: Mental health crisis
« Reply #46 on: September 24, 2020, 07:36:57 PM »

With men they can give a chemical 'castration' [they do it with male dogs too ;-)] but I don't know that option is available to us?

Glad that the medication has helped, it may be bounce back anxiety for a few hours but then the drug should take control.  Don't forget to eat ;-).
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Mary G

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Re: Mental health crisis
« Reply #47 on: September 24, 2020, 08:08:46 PM »

racjen, it's good that you have the backing for a hysterectomy.   I suppose you will never know 100% as to whether or not it will work but if you have tried every progesterone option and dose available and you really can't tolerate it for more than a few days then a hysterectomy is probably your only option.

If you feel good on oestrogen only then that would be a good indicator.

I wish there were better progesterone options more widely available.   I thought progesterone was causing my silent migraines but it turned out to be oestrogen spikes, genetic hormone instability and the dreaded Utrogestan was the cause.   A hysterectomy would not have helped in my case but my problems were different.

Have a look at my thread in the Alternative Therapies section if you get a chance, it might help.
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racjen

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Re: Mental health crisis
« Reply #48 on: September 24, 2020, 09:09:51 PM »

Part of the problem is that until earlier this year I was feeling good on estrogen only, and then that changed for no apparent reason (apart from the possibility it was the enforced change from Evorel to Estradot, in which case it's going to take a while before the change back has any effect). So right now I'm totally confused.
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CherrySG

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Re: Mental health crisis
« Reply #49 on: September 24, 2020, 09:31:00 PM »

Part of the problem is that until earlier this year I was feeling good on estrogen only, and then that changed for no apparent reason (apart from the possibility it was the enforced change from Evorel to Estradot, in which case it's going to take a while before the change back has any effect). So right now I'm totally confused.

There are a few posts on here from women who have changed to Estradot and feel worse, so it wouldn't be surprising if that's a factor.
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Perinowpost

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Re: Mental health crisis
« Reply #50 on: September 25, 2020, 07:28:44 AM »

I felt terrible on estradot switched back to evorel and was fine. There’s a thread on here about it, they are made from different things x
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Avalon

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Re: Mental health crisis
« Reply #51 on: September 25, 2020, 08:40:36 AM »

What about Duavive? It was the first hrt I was given after begging because the GP was too lazy to deal with progestogenic side effects. It was amazing for my mood but bad on the reflux.
No progesterone is a bonus.
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racjen

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Re: Mental health crisis
« Reply #52 on: September 25, 2020, 08:54:05 AM »

Not a high enough dose of estrogen - that's why I'm on separate estrogen and progesterone rather than a combined patch, cos none of them have enough estrogen.
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Avalon

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Re: Mental health crisis
« Reply #53 on: September 26, 2020, 05:14:30 AM »

If you did a list with the positives vs negatives, the hysterectomy would win.
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racjen

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« Reply #54 on: September 26, 2020, 10:10:50 AM »

Racjen

I bet it’s the change of Med brand that’s caused all this heightened anxiety ?

They say “oh it’s exactly the same”
It isn’t

I bet if you’d off managed to make it longer on the original hrt before started on the anti psychotic you’d would off levelled out again

So unfortunate you had to take the other brand of hrt

Wish you all the best of luck racjen,
Nobody deserves to go through this anxiety/depression is !!!!!!
No words really explains it
The pits, dark tunnel, no life, empty,
Soul destroying. To name a few

It takes strength everyday to get through

Anyone got any idea how long it could take to get back on track if it was the patches? I've only been on the new ones for 10 days.....
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racjen

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Re: Mental health crisis
« Reply #55 on: September 26, 2020, 10:12:39 AM »

If you did a list with the positives vs negatives, the hysterectomy would win.

I agree, but only if it was certain that removing progesterone from the equation would solve the problem, and it's by no means certain at the moment. I don't want to go through all that only to find I'm no better off than I was before.
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Mary G

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Re: Mental health crisis
« Reply #56 on: September 27, 2020, 11:32:26 AM »

racjen, it will probably take a good few weeks for you to get back to where you were with the Evorel patches.

Re the progesterone issues, all you can do is work your way through all the (very limited in my opinion) progesterone options.   

I was in a similar situation to yourself just over two years ago.   I got to the stage where I could no longer take Utrogestan and periods were making feel very ill.   I was desperate and had no idea what to do.   I could not just drop everything and go for a hysterectomy at that point in time for various reasons so after a further consultation with the migraine specialist, I made an appointment with a menopause specialist who prescribes bespoke HRT as well as conventional HRT.   It was a last ditch effort to resolve my progesterone problem and it worked - I actually feel better with a low dose of progesterone every day - but obviously there is no guarantee it would work for you.   However, it might be worth literally ruling everything out so that you know in your mind that you have not rushed into having a hysterectomy and there is no better solution just around the corner.

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racjen

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Re: Mental health crisis
« Reply #57 on: September 27, 2020, 01:26:32 PM »

Mary G, we probably had this conversation ages ago, but can you let me have the details of the specialist you're talking about please?
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Mary G

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Re: Mental health crisis
« Reply #58 on: September 27, 2020, 02:17:25 PM »

racjen, it would be more than my membership is worth to mention the name of any doctor I consult on here! 

I'm going to send you a PM.
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Re: Mental health crisis
« Reply #59 on: September 28, 2020, 06:37:57 PM »

I have been to the docs today and told him I want to die after wrapping the extensions lead round my neck on Friday night and trying to strangle myself and for the first time in my 52 and a half years of life self harming. I have totally lost the will to live This is from a woman who three years ago had a full and fulfilling life. The crisis team have spoken to me and my dear friend is taking me to see them on Thursday. I have fought and fought this for 14bmonths and nothing helps. The gp has given me premique HRT to try next but I just know it won't work any better than the other four I have tried. As I have said in other threads I always had low level anxiety but now my every waking hour is full of panic . People say think positive I do every morning, I say today is going to be good but it never is :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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