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[Losingtheplot]

Thank you AmandaJR

I have rang and left a message for the GP it will be Monday now before I get a reply.

I have asked the Gp to confirm if she is still happy for me to increase the sandrena gel and if so by how much e.g 0.5mg or 1mg. I think I would feel happier just increasing slowly so by another 0.5mg.

That might just do the trick. I will see how the next few days go as don't want to be too hasty.



There are no appointments free with this Gp until Jan, although I have an appointment on 29th Dec the GP booked in for me during the last visit.

She may tell me to wait until the 29th but I honestly can't see how 24 more days on 1mg of gel could change things for the better. But then am I being inpatient?? Maybe the level is still building up.

My friends and family are telling me to do what I feel is best for me. If only it was that easy as I just dont know what to do.

I suppose if no more improvement come 29th Dec then an increase will be inevitable. So will wait to hear GPs thoughts and go from there.

[Losingtheplot]

So have woke up with awful doom and gloom feeling and how I am going to get thru the day.

Its such an intense feeling in my stomach just awful!  .

Why are things this difficult after 8 weeks of increased gel. To think I have till the 29th potentially to see if this dose of gel sorts this debilitating feeling.

It seems so far away but I know I have to wait to know fully if this dose suits or not.

My GP is going to think I am totally mad as I left a message yesterday about increasing the gel. When we had both agreed to wait until the 29th to see how things were.

Am I completely going mad?!.

I should of been going out tonight to see a band with friends but sold my ticket as couldn't face it with feeling like this.

I had bought the ticket in July when things were great and I enjoyed life.

Is this now as good as it gets?

[AmandaJR]

No, it’s not as good as it gets! Your GP won’t think you’re mad, they’ll know just how difficult it is to wait through 3 month periods during dose changes.
You’ll be going to loads more concerts, you’ve just got to find the right dose and take a bit of time. Roll on Monday with the GP!

Keep going and know how you feel right now is temporary.

[Losingtheplot]

Thank you xxxx

So shall I just wait and see what Gp says on Monday re the increase? She may ask me to wait anyway. There again she may suggest increase.
I wish I was closer to the 12 weeks then it would be easy to know that increasing was the right thing to do.

I take propananol sometimes when anxiety is bad but not always as I dont feel it helps. Its helped.previously with palpations but not with this awful dread in my stomach. This was to be the crutch to use until review on 29th.

I may just start taking a propananol on a morning and afternoon which is when the anxiety is at the worst. Suppose it can't do any harm.

I will have to wait till Monday. I found a box of 0.5mg sandrena gel that a colleague gave me as it was no good for her. The expiry date is 11/25, she gave it to me a couple of years ago and I have just found it.

As it has expired wouldn't be wise to use it I know that. But have been tempted not that anything magical will.happen with 2 days use until GP advises on Monday.

I wish I had a magic wand to increase my levels to sort my anxiety out as I am sure we all do. 

Sorry for waffling.

[Losingtheplot]

Ok, new mindset.

I will get there, things have improved over the past 8 weeks from where I was. So I have come a long way.

I am going to be kinder to myself and accept that things can take a while. I need to be patient and give HRT time to work.

Things could improve massively over the next few weeks. I didn't think 8 weeks ago that I would have some improvement even if its not as much as I had hoped.

I think I was just in a different situation in 2023. It was spring time and I was able to get in the garden more whereas I am finding it more difficult with the colder weather and darker days/nights. Also just 0.5mg of Sandrena helped so much.

I am determined to stay positive as that will keep me.going.

[Losingtheplot]

Well here we go another day of my brain and body trying to manage to get thru the day.

I will return to work when this fit note runs out in the New Year. Have to continue with life have no choice.

Hopefully the next few weeks gets me where I need to be.

I have a Talking therapies assessment on the phone on Friday and an appointment with occ health the following week on the phone.

Be good to.hear of any support they can give me. A phased return to work is usual so as to not over whelm me. With possible home working temporarily to build my confidence up.

Hubby did say to look for.another job if I am not happy. No job is perfect and this ticks most boxes. I couldn't start new somewhere as I know my job inside out and have a supportive manager.

Obviously there are issues with being short staffed but I get on with my colleagues and there are many positives to where I work.

As you ladies will know when crippled with menopause symptoms especially brain fog and anxiety everything is that bit harder and you find yourself doubting your ability.

The brain fog has improved thankfully.
Well off to face the day.....

[Losingtheplot]

So in response to my message sent to the meno Gp at surgery on Friday.  I am currently on 1mg of sandrena gel and 1 prog tablet daily.
I asked if I could increase the gel by a further 0.5mg or a further 1mg.

I receive a text message from the doc, to increase to 1mg and use 2 x 0.5mg.

This is the dose I have been on for 9 weeks! After increasing in October and then being prescribed 1mg sachets.

I was given the option of having sachets of 0.5mg prescribed to cover the increase. That would of been the better option for any future gradual increases but my mind isnt thinking logically.

I hadnt read the message properly and thought it said to increase by a further 1mg. So I promptly added more gel to by body.
I am now concerned at having done this. 
Nothing untoward symptom wise has happened yet, but I am just at a loss as to what to do.


I have rang the surgery for clarification as I am no clearer on what to do.

I feel I should just continue as I am on 1mg per day until review on 29th Dec.

I wish this anxiety would calm right down its driving me insane. I have no motivation to want to do anything everything is a struggle.

I will be 3 months on the increase come the 29th.

Has anyone else on Sandrena find that their anxiety/mood improved upon increasing?

I just need to know things will get better 😞. I am still taking the Ad's and propananol although dont feel the latter really seem to help.

I need to return back to work and function as a human being. Ive been like this since Sept then things have declined further.

[Losingtheplot]

So unsure if this is placebo effect but I actually feel.calmer this afternoon. Could this be due to the additional 1mg gel I used?.

I am.now tempted to use 2 x 1mg tomorrow too and see how I go till the review on 29th.. Gp still hasn't been back in contact to clarify her earlier message.

Surely if it was to much gel I would of had a bad reaction? I still get palpitations on just the 1mg but hot flushes got sorted on this dose.

[Losingtheplot]

Gp rang me this morning. Recommended I stick to the 1mg dose give my body 3 months at this level before she will consider any increase.

So I shall continue as I am. 3 months will be 10th Jan so still a way to go yet.

She may consider increasing on 29th Dec by another 0.5mg but doesnt want too much to soon as could cause issues and is saying need to follow the NICE guidelines and give hormones time to settle.  I am happy to wait until the 10th Jan. That's still 4 weeks away.

Things could improve. I need to give it time. I got teary on the phone with Gp and she is happy to support me if I need more time off work.

I will see how I feel come the time when I am due to return as I want to get back to normal routine as I have too much time on my hands at the min, but also don't want to go back too soon and relapse.

My emotions are all over.

Onwards and upwards fingers crossed everything levels out soon.  Life is adding to my stress to. Some vandal damaged my wing mirror on my car last night!

My car is v old and its unnecessary money we have had to find as the cars needed to drop my hubby off at work. Another time I would deal in my stride, at this moment in time feels like nothing is going right. At the most expensive time of year too!

Take me away I have had enough.

[Fusseh]

Hi LTP
I just wanted to jump on to say you are not mad or daft. You are going through a really trying time. These are the worst perimeno symptoms imho cause they get right to the core of who we are and make us question ourselves all the damn time.

Be kind to yourself. If you are heightened, reassure yourself that you know the reason why (peri, not crazy) Take some time and breathe deeply. You will get through this. Lean on us here. Take care ❤

[Losingtheplot]

Hi LTP
I just wanted to jump on to say you are not mad or daft. You are going through a really trying time. These are the worst perimeno symptoms imho cause they get right to the core of who we are and make us question ourselves all the damn time.

Be kind to yourself. If you are heightened, reassure yourself that you know the reason why (peri, not crazy) Take some time and breathe deeply. You will get through this. Lean on us here. Take care ❤

Thank you. I will. Good way of thinking. Its temporary and my hormones are haywire.

On a positive note I went to see a Madness last night.

Let myself go and danced and sang my heart out.

It just helps me if I let it out. So sorry ladies if I have been posting loads but its a release for me.

You take care too v kind words xxx

[Losingtheplot]

I have just broken down in tears. Am so worn out with struggling with my mental health. I had a talking therapies assessment this morning and will be put forward for CBT trauma related. Approx 1 year wait.

Everyday, all day I feel so churned up and anxious even v small tasks feel mammoth.

I struggled getting out yesterday and then managed to force myself to the gym. Even when there I felt anxious.

Things just dont seem to be improving.

Ive been off work now for just over 6 weeks. I try to remain positive. I feel like this is me now.

I have no zest for life or excitement about anything.

I am worrying about my teenage son too he is v quiet and moody. Has told me he feels alone and like he has no one.

So now I feel like a lousy mam too. I know peri/menopause whichever I am in is causing my anxiety and life's stressors are making it worse.

But I am on high alert everyday my body can't sustain feeling this forever I am just scared at what will happen if things don't improve.

[Losingtheplot]

Well today has been a difficult day!
Hubby has said between myself and our son his head is battered.

He says he worries about me constantly that I will do something to myself and that is no way for him to live. He experienced this with his mam and they have a v strained relationship.  He also says I am argumentative but I dont always agree with his opinion or view.

I found this v hurtful but understand where he is coming from.

I haven't told him that I have had suicidal thoughts.
I have told him I am.not.choosing to be like this  . That I can't control it.

Who would want to be like this??? Now, I feel even more alone and that I am a hinderence.

 

[Losingtheplot]

I just want to say that not one person made the effort to reply to my post yesterday. I was v v upset and came on here for support.

 

[Minusminnie]

Often it is not about effort but I think not everyone knows quite what to reply at times to various posts.I know that I often find I can’t contribute.

I can’t  help you re the full HRT as I’m only on localised.

If you are feeling really bad you could try going to a&e there are hospital mental health liaison teams there who may be able to help you. Nurses can’t prescribe but can ask doctors to get eg diazepam. it is also one way to possibly get to see a psychiatrist who are thin on the ground, stretched with waiting lists otherwise.

It is really not on that you have to wait a year for CBT but that is how it is in many regions. Is there anyway way you can go private ?

Take care