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Swanie

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Drawing Down Feeling in Vagina
« on: September 12, 2025, 07:49:08 PM »

Hi, I am 60 years old and post menopausal, and I was wondering if anyone has experienced this horror vaginal symptom and if so, got any advice with the horrible ‘drawing down sensation’ and discomfort in vagina area.

In April, 2024 I started vaginal oestrogen pessaries due to bladder infection/ vaginal dryness severe burning and soreness. Eventually got it settled most of the time with the occasional playing up of symptoms, by adjusting over a year and a half, the twice a week dose, which just wasn’t enough for me to keep painful symptoms at bay, to then x5, then x4 and for a while x3 times a week,  with the exception of daily for a few weeks before my smear test last December. 

Last few weeks I reduced to x2 a week, and it was fine for several weeks. However, on 1st September this year,  it all started to go downhill which has left me housebound, difficulty walking and difficulty doing basic chores round my flat. The symptoms aren’t like the usual vaginal dryness symptoms that I have had in past, like irritated, burning, sometimes stabbing feeling and discomfort in vagina/ vulva area.

Day 1- bladder felt sensitive and a bit sore on and after passing urine on waking up, but settled the rest of day and felt okay after walking to shops.

Day 2- still sensitive bladder, the organ rather than the usual UTIs with nippiness and cloudy pee, but felt better than yesterday. My urine appeared clear.

Day3- symptoms got worse, twinges in bladder, discomfort with standing and sitting and had to lie propped up  on my side when trying to eat, even having to bend over to the side when trying to walk to the toilet

Day 3- managed to walk a bit with walking stick to dental appointment with help from my elderly mother, who has been a hero,  who I should be looking after instead of her looking after me!!!

Day 4- 7 horrendous ‘drawing down’ sensation started in vagina like things wanting to drop out - where everywhere online is saying Pelvic Floor Prolapse- - also passing urine has been worrying too e.g. sometimes slower flow, other times satisfactory flow, sometimes more and faster flow- amount, other times more. Also had episodes of urgency to go to the toilet to pass urine too and increase in the amount of times going to the toilet, but have had before.

Day 8- got emergency phone call appointment with gp, who said increase oestrogen pessaries from x2 a week to my usual amount in case that has a part to play, and booked me in for vaginal examination with my own gp- and said that a prolapse even if severe is not a medical emergency, although if urine stops it is a medical emergency, when I told her that it was slower that day, and less than normal flow

Day 9 - still struggling to walk in flat, using stick and not able to leave my flat, my mum had to unload my internet shopping and come down every day to help out with washing etc as had to lie in couch as much as possible. But living alone is a challenge with these symptoms.
 - Eventually, could hardly get out of bed to stand to get breakfast,
My poor 80 year old elderly mum helped me to stay at her flat via taxi and she had to carry my essentials, make my food etc

Day 10- still struggling, and even with walking stick, horrendous drawing down feeling continuing and getting worse even trying to get to toilet on my feet for a few seconds,  with pangs of pain in vagina area in certain positions. So my mother phoned 999 as felt as I couldn’t even hold out to GP appointment the following day. Trying to walk to toilet and certain movements caused me to call out in pain and even in tears.
After 14 hours since calling at 1pm, the ambulance arrived to check blood pressure and oxygen levels, they said was fine and thought as I had an appointment at gp for vaginal examination that morning at 9.15am, it would be quicker than when I would be examined at hospital, as would have to sit in A&E for long time before that. The kind ambulance workers said that if the gp spots an urgent problem, that the gp could fast track me to hospital to be seen quicker,  than sitting in A&E waiting room for hours, as would happen if they took me to hospital, and I know that sitting for me is a challenge.

Strangely by 1am before ambulance arrived, although with help of walking stick, managed to hobble to toilet and drawing down sensation seemed to have mostly subsided, although still sensitive in the vagina area- I had been lying for several hours to my side with a pillow propped between my legs, after reading on line that was the best position to relax and not strain the pelvic floor. The lovely ambulance workers asked me to walk to the toilet so they could see how I moved- and spotted that I was very anxious, tense and said that I need to relax and also recommended getting support to help me with anxiety. They also asked if I took painkillers like paracetamol, which I never take as have swallowing problems and difficulty swallowing tablets. In April my endoscopy/ gastroscopy and biopsies came back normal, but an abnormality was spotted in my throat during Barium Swallow - they spotted a Zender’s Diverticulum, which is a like a pouch in the throat.

Gp gave me vaginal examination- which for me is a nightmare as I am very anxious about getting examined and have a phobia about getting vaginal examinations - and my patient gp managed on her third attempt ( although I managed to do deep breathing and stay relaxed for my  smear test with my usual nurse last Dec,  as she seems to have a really good technique.) 

My gp said she didn’t spot a prolapse, but looked at my urine and said looks like a bit of an infection, although had been clear up to yesterday. Gp gave me a liquid Trimethoprim Suspension to take for 3 days. So felt so positive and ecstatic that it wasn’t a prolapse, as I was absolutely convinced it was,  and stayed another night at my mum’s flat.

However, today  came back home, although had to walk to shops etc en route home and first day was carrying a bag, although walking without stick, was still sensitive down there when standing for periods of time. Arrived back in my flat, so upset that the drawing down feeling has started again after my lunch. My mum who has supported me so much, but with her health conditions, it is too much for her- the stress/ worry of trying to look after me - and saying that I should stop going on about prolapse if gp says they didn’t spot one. So going to try to manage this the best I can without stressing out my mum, as she is not able to support me as the stress of it all is too much for her- and I am worried as she is just being put on high blood pressure meds and can’t burden her anymore with this problem.


Has anyone experienced this? If so, any advice please.  Im so worried now that it can still be a prolapse if gp didn’t spot it? I know that urogynaecologists are the experts in this field, but can’t afford to go private as too expensive for me now that I have retired and I am guessing that the waiting list are going to be epic - if my gp refers me- although don’t know how I am going to get referred if she hasn’t spotted prolapse, but ……So worried that the gp has just not spotted it even though I have a prolapse. Despite being amazing and patient with me, even putting whale music up to my ear during my vaginal examination. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

 Sorry about the epic text, and if you read it- thank you so much for taking the time.
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Minusminnie

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Re: Drawing Down Feeling in Vagina
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2025, 09:57:40 PM »

Are you able to pay to see a women’s pelvic physiotherapist if not a urogynaecologist ?
If you look at their chartered website you can find one in your area. Just make sure that it is a women’s health physio.
You can then get an internal assessment.

Your GP may not spot a prolapse when you are lying down. Could you ask to see a different GP ? You have to trust your own gut instinct and maybe not your mums opinion of one GP.

It does sound like some prolapse from your descriptions due to your recent reduction in localised oestrogen.
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Swanie

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Re: Drawing Down Feeling in Vagina
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2025, 09:31:50 AM »

Thank you so much Minusminnie for reading my long text and going to the effort to reply. I really appreciate it.

 After reading your reply I have been trying to find a women’s pelvic physiotherapist but not sure how to find their chartered website and frantically trying to look up urogynaecologist. I could pay to get initial examination but guessing that extensive ones like ultrasound scans and other more expensive scans would be too costly. Years ago it used to easy to go to a walk in clinic to get examined by a gynaecologist and get help. Now seems pretty tricky to access if post menopausal.

I will keep trying to find and access a specialist. Thanks.
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Ayesha

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Re: Drawing Down Feeling in Vagina
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2025, 12:30:53 PM »

You're tinkering too much with the treatment, it has to be consistent otherwise you will never get to be symptom free.
Use it daily, a pessary and a smear of Estriol cream on the outside until you start to feel better, it can take months and even up to a year when the condition is chronic.
Your GP should be able to check if its a prolapse or not but hopefully it isn't.

I had the same symptoms as you, my GP didn't find a prolapse and with constant treatment of Vagifem and Estriol cream I am symptom free, apart from when I get a flare up but its soon corrected with increasing my dose of topical oestrogen. I have been on daily treatment for over five years now. 
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Swanie

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Re: Drawing Down Feeling in Vagina
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2025, 01:24:38 PM »

Hi Ayesha, Thank you so much for reading my epic text and giving excellent advice.

 I will try using Estriol pessary every day and a smear of Estriol cream on the outside to see how I get on. I went to the gp 2 days ago for vaginal exam and she said that she doesn’t feel a prolapse, and was examined lying down like usual smear test. She actually said it felt quite good- but not sure what she meant by that as she made comment when I was a bit shaky after vaginal exam as so nervous about it. But with online research, I am finding out that the gp might just not of spotted it when I was lying down. Just starting to panic, and thinking about how to pay for private urogynaecologist- which is a challenge for me, but willing to do anything to improve my situation.

1. Just checking, I know that we can do a loading up of pessaries every day for 2 weeks and then maximum x5 a week.( as I remember a gp said that the max was x5 a week and I can use Estriol cream on outside as well.)
Do you mean x7 a day until I see any signs of improvement?
2. Did you mean that you have experienced the same drawing down feeling as well?
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Ayesha

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Re: Drawing Down Feeling in Vagina
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2025, 01:40:54 PM »

Yes, its always that drawing down feeling when I start to have a flare up of symptoms, as it was when first diagnosed.

And yes, they say maximum dose of five a week pessaries, but what they don't take into account is that GSM symptoms are very individual in each case, there are a few of us on this forum that have to use seven day treatment of both Vagifem and Estriol to relieve symptoms. I have experimented trying to reduce my dose but the following day the symptoms start to return. Once I explained this to my GP, he was happy for me to continue on a daily basis.   

In your case I would have no hesitation in using treatment daily until I started to get relief then I would think about reducing but as in my case, if symptoms persist continue on daily treatment, this is where I am now and have been for five years.
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Swanie

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Re: Drawing Down Feeling in Vagina
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2025, 02:10:00 PM »

You have given me some hope. Thank you so much Ayesha.🌈
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