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Snowcat

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Re: Oil or water?
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2025, 05:04:21 PM »

That’s what I’ve said too - the NHS would save a fortune if they treated us properly in the first place .. I’ve read guidelines Ayesha posted on Sunnyangel’s query and it’s brilliant! It’s excellent info for all the medical people - we should arm ourselves with a copy!
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MrsMitch

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Re: Oil or water?
« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2025, 07:22:28 AM »

The links contain such helpful information. I was given them by my menopause specialist at the hospital a few years back. What stood out to me in one of them was the statement that said we can have atrophy without visible signs. That was me, apparently. In agony for years & every time I had to endure an excruciating internal apparently nothing was visible. When I self diagnosed & again had to have an internal the GP said although she would treat it as atrophy there were very little visible signs.
The trouble is, as most of us can testify, you do have to tread very lightly when you see any health professional & you are armed with information they do not know. I mentioned a couple of things yesterday to the GP & she wanted to know if I follow Louise Newsome. I don't but BTW!
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CherryC

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Re: Oil or water?
« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2025, 04:40:24 PM »

With regard to the question of oil v water based - I was also wondering what the difference is and also Yes VM. I just asked the question on Google Chat and thought I would post here what it says just in case useful.  I know I'm unsure myself which to use and very much need..

YES VM (Vaginal Moisturizer):
Purpose:
Primarily for long-term relief of vaginal dryness and irritation.
Mechanism:
It's iso-osmotic, meaning it matches the water concentration of vaginal tissues, releasing moisture only when the tissues need it, over an extended period (1-3 days).
Ideal for:
Daily use to maintain vaginal health, especially during menopause or when experiencing vaginal dryness.
Key feature:
Provides a slow, sustained release of moisture to rehydrate and soothe tissues.

YES WB (Water-Based Lubricant):
Purpose: To provide immediate lubrication during intercourse and reduce discomfort.
Mechanism: It's hypo-osmotic to iso-osmotic, meaning it releases water more rapidly than YES VM, providing a quick, slippery sensation.
Ideal for: Sex and situations where instant lubrication is needed.
Key feature: Provides a fast-acting, slippery surface for comfortable intercourse.

YES OB (Plant-Oil Based Lubricant):
Purpose: To provide a long-lasting, moisturizing lubricant, especially for extended periods of intimacy.
Mechanism: It's oil-based and formulated with plant oils, providing a richer, more moisturizing feel and longer-lasting lubrication compared to water-based options.
Ideal for: Situations where a longer-lasting, moisturizing lubricant is desired.
Key feature: Longer-lasting lubrication and a moisturizing feel.

In essence: YES VM is for sustained vaginal hydration, while YES WB and YES OB are for lubrication during intercourse, with YES WB providing a quicker, more immediate effect and YES OB offering longer-lasting lubrication.
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Snowcat

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Re: Oil or water?
« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2025, 09:40:18 PM »

Thank you so much CherryC.  That’s very helpful.  No sex going on here while all this is going on - that shop is well and truly closed! 😂 I think I’ll try the Yes VM again - I really don’t try things for long enough to give them a chance - I just panic if things sting or don’t give relief straight away - unrealistic I know.  Just that pain down below can be rather scary!

At least with the water based kinds like the YES VM you can use it often and it won’t interfere with the estrogen cream’s effectiveness.. that stings enough without a moisturiser stinging too! Thanks for replying. 
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