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bluebird68

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HRT Oestradial Levels
« on: April 09, 2025, 11:02:08 AM »

Hi Firstly,  This forum has been the best forum I have come accross and so supportive and plenty of sensible advice so far so thank you so much.  For some years now Ive been on gels, patches.  The four pumps of gel didnt show a good absorbsion which was 180 pmol a year ago.  I am on patches and have been for a over a year consistently.  I had my estrogen checked yesterday and the form value is oestradial 303.4 pmol - Which is an improvement compared to the gel which was half this however I wondered if this sounds like a reasonable level or is all about symptons? Can it be this and still feel tired all the time?  low mood.  its like a mental fog, phyically I have energy and sleep is 7 hours a night but unrefreshed. I have had masses of blood tests and some scans but nothing found so my assumption is it may be to do with the hormones.  Just wondering about the level? I am on a 100mcg patch and mirena coil age 55. is there a limit on the levels? Perhaps the missing link is testosterone.  The whole journey of peri/menopause has been exhausting from the age of 44 till now.  Long time for us all to struggle on. Now we understand what the change of life means!
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bombsh3ll

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Re: HRT Oestradial Levels
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2025, 07:16:45 PM »

Everyone is different in terms of where they feel well, and 300pmol/L is the threshold recommended by Prof Studd for bone protection.
Vaginal atrophy is uncommon above around 183pmol/L (Sarrell et al 1990)

However mood and psychological symptoms can require higher estradiol levels to resolve in some women e.g. 450-800pmol/L

Other outcomes such as cardiovascular and brain health have not had protective thresholds delineated as far as I am aware.

Personally I feel well around 400pmol/L and I would not let myself get below this.

Testosterone can also help with energy, cognitive and mood symptoms and is definitely worth adding, however if someone has low estrogen (for them), our clever bodies just convert more testosterone to estradiol as the latter is more critical for health.

It's no good having a sharp mind and a great libido if the bones that hold everything up are crumbling, or your skin and genital tract are dry and atrophic, leaving you vulnerable to wounds and infections for example, so if you take testosterone in the setting of low estrogen, you are really just taking expensive estrogen as this is its metabolic fate.
 
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bluebird68

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Re: HRT Oestradial Levels
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2025, 09:02:38 PM »

Good to know. My GP did asked me if im getting any benefit from hrt. Because I've been on it for years I do not know. It's so difficult to know what to do next as we have to guage it on symptoms. I have felt myself for 12 years although some symptoms less severe. I know we have to be realistic about getting older. Thanks again bombsh3ll
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