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[CrispyChick]

Ah rightio.

Thanks. Lots to investigate. X

[Penguin]

Ah rightio.

Thanks. Lots to investigate. X

I'd say just make sure anything you take is with or after food given your gut issues. For example my fluoxetine causes nausea if on an empty tummy x

[CrispyChick]

Sorry, me again.

I've been thinking it through and I'd much rather try betablockers than diazapan during the start up.

So, did you take the 10mg betablockers every day or take it as and when you needed it in the first month?

Thanks. X

[Penguin]

Sorry, me again.

I've been thinking it through and I'd much rather try betablockers than diazapan during the start up.

So, did you take the 10mg betablockers every day or take it as and when you needed it in the first month?

Thanks. X

As and when needed although was tx just could take it every day if I wanted, it doesn't come with the same warning as diazepam. However, it only deals with the physical symptoms of anxiety. If you have cognitive/ mental issues, then it doesn't work for those. However, in a lot of times  just dealing with the physical stopped mg mind latching on to the mental x

[CrispyChick]

Thank you penguin.

Much appreciated. It's the physical aggitation that gets me when I increase. So sounds absolutely like what I need. 

Thanks. X

[CLKD]

Interesting: I was told to definitely take Propranolol at the same time every day. 

[CrispyChick]

Was this when starting out on your AD though clkd??? Or do you take it as well as your AD more often?

I'll only need it to help curb the start up side affects of the AD.

[CLKD]

I began ADs in 1998.  As well as 'valium' on an as necessary basis.  I wasn't given Propranolol until 2002 ........ still taking ADs but had dropped the 'valium'. 

When my depression is worse for 3 mornings in a row I up the AD amount in the morning = 10mg at night and 10mg at breakfast. 

[CrispyChick]

So when do you use the propranadol???

But that probably answers that. As Penguin is taking about using it fur start up AD side affects. Which is probably why it's an as and when requirement.

But I'll ask my GP and report back.

[AmandaJR]

Hi Crispy, I was prescribed propranolol by my GP a year ago, told to take it 3 times a day whilst I waited for an Endo apt. Endo then told me to take it as required, same as Penguin. It brings down my heart rate and blood pressure within about 12 minutes, it works quickly enough to stop the anxiety starting.
I had to increase the dose to get relief from heart stuff and *think* I’d prefer the beta blocker route to diazepam simply because it can be prescribed/increased easily without a fight with the surgery.
I hope something helps you soon. x

[Penguin]

So when do you use the propranadol???

But that probably answers that. As Penguin is taking about using it fur start up AD side affects. Which is probably why it's an as and when requirement.

But I'll ask my GP and report back.

You don't need to take it every day. It is definitely fine on an ad hoc basis. Ileith both the propanalol and diazepam I was told that i could take both every day for 1-2 weeks only,  then as needed. The psych told me that some people take the diazepam every day for the first week or two when starting antidepressants because it helps get past the initial side up effects which can, in some people, include increased anxiety. But he said it was my choice and plenty of other people don't need to do that and just take as needed from the start, which is what I ended up doing and it was fine.

[CrispyChick]

Thanks folks.

I think I understand. And yes, this is literally to assist start up side affects. I would hope not to need it once the AD kicks in as I don't normally take anything!

[CrispyChick]

Hey ladies.

Those of you on AD for peri or meno - did you find (if you'd previously taken AD) that you needed a higher dose to curb the hormonal stuff?? Or not.

At what stage do folks decide to go up in dose??? Early doors, or wait it out a good month or two?

Many thanks.
I find start up so hard. 

[CrispyChick]

Anyone still out there on this thread?

Just needing a wee pep talk.

Nearly completed 4 weeks on 10mg escitalopram. Having been on 5mg for years (it was doing nothing).

I hate start up. I find it so hard. This 4th week has been the hardest yet. Extreme aggitation and panic all day, every day. Mood swinging up/down. Can get quite low or angry. But doesn't last too long.

And I've had terrible sensitive teeth since increasing.  . Really hoping that goes.

Any advice appreciated. X

[CLKD]

5-10 is quite a jump, did U split the dose morning and evening?  Agitation often happens with a change of ADs, I remember Dad having to walk when he was prescribed Ativan  .

As for sensitive teeth, when did U last see a dentist or hygienist?  As oestrogen levels drop gums may recede = tooth loosening  .  The jaw bone, like all our bones, requires regular impact i.e.when we chew.  I also have problems with burning mouth when I use paste with SLS in  . MayB check the paste ingredients?