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[discogirl]

Hi Nas

hope the mirtazapines work for you. Did you come off amitrypline x

[Nas]

Not yet Crispy. After another 4am wake up, I’m knackered from the working week. Tomorrow I will collect it and hope to god it does something positive. Otherwise I’m going to get the sack I reckon. I’m just not retaining any information of the most basic type; very distressing.

How are you today? Any respite? X

[Nas]

Hi disco,
I’ve still been taking the amitriptyline, not that it does much! Hoping mirtazapine will help with sleep.

How are you getting on? I can see you have had bleeding issues again? What a shame. What’s your plan going forward? X

[discogirl]

hiya Nas

Amitrypline doesnt always work for everyone. Ive heard mirtazapines effective. I'll keep everything crossed it works for you.

Yes I had another heavy bleed, had a hysteroscopy no GA but it was actually ok.

Im thinking of coming off the hrt as it hasnt really been great to be honest and I cant keep bleeding like this.

Keep in touch and let me know how you get on xx

[CrispyChick]

Ok. I hear you Nas.

Hoping everything goes smoothly with it and it gives you some respite.

Not good here. But chemical menopause was never going to be an easy ride. I'm only 2/3 weeks off deciding whether to continue or jump ship.

Keep us updated. If nothing else, it might knock you out. 

I hear you on work. Well, here I am off work just now. Because I was very much teetering on the edge.

If you think the AD might work, once stated, but get side affects, could you possibly take some sick leave to get through it? X

[Summer-sky]

Hi Nas and Crispy,

How are you both getting on?  Nas, did you decide on whether to take the Mirtazapine or hold off?  I hope you are finding some routes to help with some of the meno symptoms a bit? x

[Nas]

Hi Summer-sky,
My mirtazapine is still in my
drawer! I’ve bought novomins magnesium gummies and melatonin from Biovea. Will try my mirtazapine at the weekend.

Something big has happened
( not meno related) but I may need more than mirtazapine! 😱😳

Crispy, how are you getting on ? XXX

[CrispyChick]

Hope you're ok Nas??

'something big has happened' sounds ominous.

So you're defo trying the mirtazapine this weekend??? So hopeful that it'll help you in the long run.

I'm still plodding along trying to let the HRT stabilise on chem meno. I'm only day 11 of a full patch. Feeling very unwell.

My consultant said 2/3 weeks to stabilise. Then 4-6 weeks before you'd consider any changes. She also told me not to try the AD whilst on this trial, of I won't know what's what. To which I agree.

But it's there, ready, should I bomb off it all.

Good luck. X

[Summer-sky]

Hi Nas,
Hopefully the gummies and melatonin will help a bit but sorry to hear about the something big - it sounds like another challenging thing Nas on your already challenging road.  xx 

[Nas]

Unbelievable, I can’t take mirtazapine as it interacts with my cancer drug!! ☹️

Back to square one again .. sigh…

Crispy, I am so so hoping that you can get on an even keel. You deserve a break for sure! Are you still off work?

How does chemical menopause work?

Xxx

[CrispyChick]

Oh no! Nas. That's so frustrating.

Ok. There are plenty more AD to try. I use escitalopram, which is an ssri. There are also srni ones. Not sure of the difference. I have drops so when I increase, I can do it slowly. Although going too slow will prolong any aging I suspect.

So dont give up. Find an alternative to try. You've got to keep trying. Xx

Yes. Still off work. Im very ill. At my worst.

Chem meno literally shuts down your ovaries so in a matter of weeks you plummet to zero. I've gig terrible joint pain and flushes from it. But the HRT is so far not helping, and stirring up all my reactive symptoms. Horrible.

But, I'm going to keep going. I've come this far.  I need to know if if can help my original symptoms or not. Whether they are genuinely my body's reaction to fluctuations. Or not.

If it doesn't help them. I'll be bombing off and going straight on AD. And never touching a hormone again!

[CrispyChick]

Nas

Did you get anywhere looking into appropriate anti depressants? I found this today and, assuming tamoxifen might be what you're on? It suggests citalopram or escitalopram are ok.

It's escitalopram I use.

https://gpnotebook.com/en-GB/pages/gynaecology/ssri-ssris-in-the-menopause

[Nas]

Hi Crispy,
I’m on letrozole, but did take tamoxifen for my primary cancer.

I’m hanging fire with the anti depressants, mainly because i work in a school with children who have additional needs. I just can’t afford to feel off or ride out side effects. If I had a WFH job, I may be more inclined to give them a go, but as things stand, I can’t at the moment.

How are you getting on? X

[CLKD]

How did U get on with tamoxifen Nas ?

[Nas]

Not bad CLKD. Obviously an oestrogen blocker, so menopause symptoms hit hard. I took for 4 years, then stopped.

It’s even offered as treatment for  secondary cancer these days.

I know it’s poison to some and a godsend to others.