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[KaraShannon]

Hi everyone

I'm going through the doldrums again, zero energy, generally feeling yuk, and low mood. 

I have some real life reasons for these things too but it's worse in the last two weeks of my combined patch, before going back to estradiol (I'm on evorel sequi)

Anyway I thought I'd start a doldrums thread because I'm not able to be more constructive today.  Feel free to bring your doldrums here, I will listen, I might not be able to respond straight away but I will always come back. 

[KaraShannon]

I did not mean to bring anyone down with this thread.

Misery loves company 

No, more a kind of mutual support if anyone else goes through similar. 

[kathie22]

I had a boss that used to say she was “going to eat worms” when she was having a bad day. It’s a family thing now.
A down day is often best shared.
Strangely, I am just coming out of a horrible period of depression & anxiety, Almost finished me off .. but was watching the tele this morning and they were discussing empty nest .. when your kids leave home .. and I suddenly had a lightbulb moment. This is what had been wrong.. 18 months ago we relocated. We left behind our children and grandchildren I left my job and all my work friends.We had been very involved with the family,always helping out, sleepovers, school pickups, Shoulder's to cry on. Always someone knocking on the door popping in for a chat, or to borrow something. And then it all stopped, we haven’t moved that far, an hours drive, but life is so different. My husband has adjusted well, he loves things and has made lots of friends due to dog walks.But I developed Atrophy, a Prolapse and had two bad falls,which isolated me.But ok, it was a lot to cope with, but I’d had worse. Just couldn’t understand why I was in such a bad place, why I was just a total mess.
Isn’t it odd when you join the dots it all makes sense
Empty nest, totally describes it

[Cass63]

I am in a very low place as well. The anxiety is severe at this point, effecting my everyday life. This has been a very trying summer for me on so many levels. I too am starting to connect the dots and I am realizing that when I become exhausted mentally and physically the anxiety kicks into high gear. I use to handle it and push through, but the last year has been a game changer for me. I don’t deal with anything like I once did, seems these days I just crumble I know that aging plays a big part in all of this as well and I shouldn’t expect to be able to do all that I once did. My mind knows this but my heart doesn’t want to accept it. I know also the change in seasons plays a huge factor in my mental health and the losing of daylight hours. I am having days where I cannot stop the tears, don’t have a reason to cry really, but the tears flow down anyway  This is definitely a very trying time in life and it really saddens me to think this is just the way it is now. I try hard to remind myself how abundantly blessed I am and I know others have much more to deal with than me. Sometimes it does just help to vent how you are feeling with others who understand. Misery truly does love company  :)Prayers for brighter days for each of us. Take care ladies

[fiftyplus]

I had a boss that used to say she was “going to eat worms” when she was having a bad day. It’s a family thing now.
A down day is often best shared.
Strangely, I am just coming out of a horrible period of depression & anxiety, Almost finished me off .. but was watching the tele this morning and they were discussing empty nest .. when your kids leave home .. and I suddenly had a lightbulb moment. This is what had been wrong.. 18 months ago we relocated. We left behind our children and grandchildren I left my job and all my work friends.We had been very involved with the family,always helping out, sleepovers, school pickups, Shoulder's to cry on. Always someone knocking on the door popping in for a chat, or to borrow something. And then it all stopped, we haven’t moved that far, an hours drive, but life is so different. My husband has adjusted well, he loves things and has made lots of friends due to dog walks.But I developed Atrophy, a Prolapse and had two bad falls,which isolated me.But ok, it was a lot to cope with, but I’d had worse. Just couldn’t understand why I was in such a bad place, why I was just a total mess.
Isn’t it odd when you join the dots it all makes sense
Empty nest, totally describes it

I feel your pain - empty nest is horrible isn't it - my son literally lives at the other side of the world - I haven't seen him in over a year and a half since he left, although whatsapp is great for keeping in touch - what programme on tele was discussing it this morning?

[Minusminnie]

I had a boss that used to say she was “going to eat worms” when she was having a bad day. It’s a family thing now.
A down day is often best shared.
Strangely, I am just coming out of a horrible period of depression & anxiety, Almost finished me off .. but was watching the tele this morning and they were discussing empty nest .. when your kids leave home .. and I suddenly had a lightbulb moment. This is what had been wrong.. 18 months ago we relocated. We left behind our children and grandchildren I left my job and all my work friends.We had been very involved with the family,always helping out, sleepovers, school pickups, Shoulder's to cry on. Always someone knocking on the door popping in for a chat, or to borrow something. And then it all stopped, we haven’t moved that far, an hours drive, but life is so different. My husband has adjusted well, he loves things and has made lots of friends due to dog walks.But I developed Atrophy, a Prolapse and had two bad falls,which isolated me.But ok, it was a lot to cope with, but I’d had worse. Just couldn’t understand why I was in such a bad place, why I was just a total mess.
Isn’t it odd when you join the dots it all makes sense
Empty nest, totally describes it

Change followed by stress can be triggers that bring on depression.

[kathie22]

Hi Fiftyplus
It was on The BBC .. the chatty programme at 9.30 ..? Morning Live ??
I was astounded when I realised that it was so obvious and I just hadn’t even realised it
My kids never really left They all travelled the world sometimes for a couple of years but came back and settled
I know now I have to make the best of what I have now No going back I’m post prolapse surgery so when I’m recovered I will need to move on

[fiftyplus]

Hi Fiftyplus
It was on The BBC .. the chatty programme at 9.30 ..? Morning Live ??
I was astounded when I realised that it was so obvious and I just hadn’t even realised it
My kids never really left They all travelled the world sometimes for a couple of years but came back and settled
I know now I have to make the best of what I have now No going back I’m post prolapse surgery so when I’m recovered I will need to move on

Thanks for replying, I will have a wee look on iplayer

Sending some virtual hugs your way xx        I hope my boy comes back from his travels and settles nearer home, you have given me hope.  This is just another "change" we have to deal with.  Best wishes for the future xx

[kathie22]

And another thing..Why do you feel so crap some days … I’m full of aches and pains today and have convinced myself that I’ve made a mistake having my prolapse fixed and that the surgery is going to fail. It was 9 weeks ago and I don’t have a date for my check up yet. I get no support from my GP and get all my info from the Facebook support group.
Every little thing sends me into panic, is it normal? should it feel like this ? has the dreaded bulge come back?
I really could give myself a good shake I don’t know anyone else who’s had this surgery, It’s very lonely

[KaraShannon]

Thanks for joining in, I've got covid, I will reply soon, it's just late and I feel a bit rough right now.

[kathie22]

Hi KaraShannon
Poor you
Hope you feel better soon

[KaraShannon]

Thanks Kathie

Getting there

I related to a lot of what you said, though I don't have children so I've always had an empty nest (so that part I'm not familiar with though I imagine in some ways from having losses, not the same I know), but I could relate to how you described your feelings so I promise to come back and talk when I'm through this x