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[rferdi]

rferdi, as you may remember, I'm in Spain too and with Adeslas which is probably similar to your health insurance company.  With blood tests, I get slip from the gynaecologist but I've got a load of A4 sized tick box forms which the doctor gave me and photocopied them so I just tick all the extra tests that I want to have (over and above the hemograma) like hormones, all the thyroid tests, vitamins plus the all the cancer marker tests.  It's one hell of lot of tests and I do it once a year.  The lab then send the results directly to me a couple of days later. 

I also found doctors unhelpful with HRT but I just do my own thing and buy Oestraclin and Darstin which I find very good and obviously I'm scanned and checked by the gynaecologist every year plus I have yearly breast scans.  I like Lenzetto because it's so user friendly but unfortunately it was too weak and my migraines returned. 

I hope that helps.

Hi Mary, thank you, I don't always get that type of form with the boxes that you can tick unfortunately, though I did a couple of times before and I also ticked the ones with all the extra tests. But I hadn't thought of photocopying them, I'll definitely do that next time that's a great idea. Yes the lab also sends me the results directly as well, the doctor won't have them till I bring them to the consultation.

I know you do your own thing, that's understandable and I'll probably have to start doing the same, unless I find the doctor I'm looking for. Fortunately most pharmacies won't object to selling the products without a prescription (though it's happened to me a few times lately, but I've found it depends on the region, for example pharmacies in Catalonia tend to be less problematic).

I decided to switch to Lenzetto from Oestraclin just because of the convenience as far as application, I'm giving it a chance. I may have to switch back to the gel, we'll see.

I hope all is well with you 

[rferdi]

Hi rferdi - Lenzetto is very low dose, as a product. So it's not used much here because women end up needing too many pumps of it to get enough. You will probably have more luck switching to Oestrogel or patches - even if you stay at the max licensed dose, you will get more from those than from Lenzetto (on average).

182mpol is very low, so you def need more... 270pmol is the minimum just to protect bones.

I didn't test vitamin A because that just tests the levels in the blood and not what is stored in the liver. And you'd need to be really really low in the liver before that showed in the blood. So I decided just to supplement and see if I felt better. Yes, I'm on retinyl palmitate...

Thanks joziel, I didn't know the exact numbers, I know there's a new thread on here specifically about this, I'll have a look. My gynae of course said that level is perfectly fine... I'm trying Lenzetto because of how convenient it is but yes I may have to switch back to the gel.

Yesterday I had a very bad day with lots of nausea late in the evening, and as soon as I applied the 2 sprays of Lenzetto the nausea began to disappear, and I was fine about an hour later. So yes that's very clear evidence that symptom was low estrogen.

[joziel]

rferdi, do you have Sandrena gel there? It is another option if you've tried Oestrogel before. It's made in Europe. I think it might be called Divigel there, as that's what it's called in Ireland I think...

[rferdi]

rferdi, do you have Sandrena gel there? It is another option if you've tried Oestrogel before. It's made in Europe. I think it might be called Divigel there, as that's what it's called in Ireland I think...

I don't know, I'll have to ask at a pharmacy (doing a quick search I've not been able to find it). I see it's also estradiol hemihydrate, does it absorb better, is it better than Oestrogel?

[joziel]

Different people have different preferences really. I tried it and couldn't absorb it as well as Oestrogel - but everyone is different. It's body identical..