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[getting_old]

I heard about these articles yesterday so found this link. It certainly makes interesting reading

https://www.medicalrepublic.com.au/empowerment-key-to-managing-menopause/105714

[CLKD]

These ideas are all over the place - it's natural and although symptoms can floor many, it shouldn't be treated as a disease.  Women need to be listened to and believed.

[sheila99]

Perhaps we should castrate every man at 50 and then tell them all they need is 'empowerment' and they don't need to replace the hormones they've lost. I'm glad I don't live in Australia, it's bad enough here.

[Jules]

I feel that in this country its more important to educate women about what to expect and provide appropriate medical treatment than introduce employment law that will never work, so that women like me don't reach 60 before they learn about the changes that are happening and have to find out about and ask for help when it should be offered.

[CLKD]

As well as educating the medical profession ?

[sheila99]

I feel that in this country its more important to educate women about what to expect and provide appropriate medical treatment than introduce employment law that will never work, so that women like me don't reach 60 before they learn about the changes that are happening and have to find out about and ask for help when it should be offered.

Spot on about the education. It should be taught as standard along with sex education (though the educators may need educating themselves first). I was another who had no idea when it hit.

[Penguin]

I feel that in this country its more important to educate women about what to expect and provide appropriate medical treatment than introduce employment law that will never work, so that women like me don't reach 60 before they learn about the changes that are happening and have to find out about and ask for help when it should be offered.

Spot on about the education. It should be taught as standard along with sex education (though the educators may need educating themselves first). I was another who had no idea when it hit.

I also agree with you both. All I heard from my mum was it involves a few hot flashes and then your periods stop. She passed before I went into full peri so I couldn't even ask her about her experience. Mine has been dire so far and I wish I'd known even as early as secondary school that it isn't that straightforward. I am already talking to my 9 year old daughter about menopause as she has seen what I've been going through x

[Jules]

Reading this forum I realise I've been lucky, I had nothing that problematic. My problems were all downstairs and worsened from late 50s, Last 3 years most noticable in my 60s but I had absolutely no idea. If my mum has these problems she's never said.

[Joaniepat]

I feel that in this country its more important to educate women about what to expect and provide appropriate medical treatment than introduce employment law that will never work, so that women like me don't reach 60 before they learn about the changes that are happening and have to find out about and ask for help when it should be offered.

Spot on about the education. It should be taught as standard along with sex education (though the educators may need educating themselves first). I was another who had no idea when it hit.

Menopause is on the school curriculum now. Diane Danzebrink campaigned for this. She was also involved in a campaign to make menopause training compulsory in med school, but sadly the powers that be said they didn't need it  .
JP x

[sheila99]

I thought they were changing it so it will be compulsory?

[CLKD]

I think that Mums/Grans didn't talk about it or mayB, because eating habits were different until the early 1980s, they didn't have such dreadful symptoms?  More processed foods in recent years, plus more sedentary life styles may well have an impact.

My relatives were more active: Dad had the car to go to work so Mum walked/cycled everywhere or used the bus.  Grandmas never learned to drive.  Food was seasonal. 

[sheila99]

I think it's more that it wasn't talked about. My mum was bedridden for 2 years when they damaged her back for a cystitis operation. Can't help wondering if it was va not a urinary tract problem. Many of us only knew about flushes and periods and we have the Internet, they only had a small circle of friends/relatives.

[getting_old]

Definitely the medical profession need better education because a lot of women don't have any knowledge so need guidance. Obviously education for everyone is best, but in some ways I'm not sure I'd remember what I was taught in school by the time I was in peri.
My mother never talked about it, however looking back she did have stuff that probably was related but was attributed to other diseases so the treatments never really worked. She passed before I got to peri, but I wouldn't have talked to her about it anyway. Honestly I was completely clueless about the whole thing. My periods had gone haywire for at least a year, maybe 2, before I even considered menopause!

[Jules]

I don't think I'd have been remotely interested in or remember anything I'd learned in school about menopause. At school age, 30 is old, you just think anything else is irrelevant

[getting_old]

I don't think I'd have been remotely interested in or remember anything I'd learned in school about menopause. At school age, 30 is old, you just think anything else is irrelevant

Exactly! I'd be wondering why I needed to know and probably staring out of the window thinking about something totally random.