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[Banjo1973]

Hello ladies.

I just wanted to say that I ran out of Sandrena sachets so I have been using some Oestrogel pumps that I found in the back of the cupboard, I assume they are the old bottles.  So far I feel about the same but if I continue with Oestrogel I will be mindful of the newer product.

Nas - I used to rub one 1mg sachet of gel into my inner thigh, alternating  every day. I find the gel is thicker than Oestrogel and took a little longer to dry. Other than that I had no problems with it.

Good luck ladies and wishing you all well.

K.


I use one and a half 1mg sachets as equivalent to 3 pumps of good oestrogel.

I alternate places to apply, calves, thighs arms.

It is sticky, but as there's such a small quantity compared to Oestrogel it's bearable.

Good luck x

[joziel]

Is it like Testogel, in terms of drying and consistency? I use that for T.

[Banjo1973]

I use tostran so I don't know.

Sandrena dries quite tacky. Doesn't bother me though, it works. And after 4 months of rubbish, a little bit of stickiness is a very small price to pay!

[Mrslolad]

Hey ladies.

So I started sandrena yesterday and had a good day. Felt really optimistic. Today however, about an hour after applying I felt really sick and light headed and it triggered my health anxiety again. I’ve actually been in bed for three hours hoping to ‘sleep it off’.

Has anyone experienced similar with adjusting? X

[Banjo1973]

Hey ladies.

So I started sandrena yesterday and had a good day. Felt really optimistic. Today however, about an hour after applying I felt really sick and light headed and it triggered my health anxiety again. I’ve actually been in bed for three hours hoping to ‘sleep it off’.

Has anyone experienced similar whisky adjusting? X

Oh dear,

One friend of mine who switched to Sandrena got a bad headache for about a day. It got better and she's been really happy with Sandrena and would never go back to Oestrogel.

Another friend who also switched from Oestrogel didn't feel right on Sandrena and has now happily settled on Evorel patches.

I'm still finding my feet with Sandrena and am still experimenting with the dose - I started on 2 x 1mg sachets, but was worried it was a high dose so lowered it to 1 and a half. But I think I might be better with 2 sachets. When Oestrogel was good I was on 3 pumps.

Can I ask what (old) Oestrogel dose you were on and what Sandrena dose you are on?

[Mrslolad]

Hey ladies.

So I started sandrena yesterday and had a good day. Felt really optimistic. Today however, about an hour after applying I felt really sick and light headed and it triggered my health anxiety again. I’ve actually been in bed for three hours hoping to ‘sleep it off’.

Has anyone experienced similar whisky adjusting? X

Oh dear,

One friend of mine who switched to Sandrena got a bad headache for about a day. It got better and she's been really happy with Sandrena and would never go back to Oestrogel.

Another friend who also switched from Oestrogel didn't feel right on Sandrena and has now happily settled on Evorel patches.

I'm still finding my feet with Sandrena and am still experimenting with the dose - I started on 2 x 1mg sachets, but was worried it was a high dose so lowered it to 1 and a half. But I think I might be better with 2 sachets. When Oestrogel was good I was on 3 pumps.

Can I ask what (old) Oestrogel dose you were on and what Sandrena dose you are on?

Thanks for responding.

So on the old oestrogel I was happy on three pumps.  On the new I wasn’t ever happy or settled and went up to five but then def felt like I had estrogen dominance.

I’ve been prescribed 2x 1mg sandrena but that is too much so I started with just the one sachet. It could be that I need more but I am so scared to increase. It’s such a complicated mess x

[Banjo1973]

I hear you sister!

I did my own calculations of estradiol and 1 pump = 0.75mg so on 3 pumps that is 2.25mg which means 2 and a quarter sachets!!! Not the 3 pumps = 1.5 sachets that most places say. However, I didn't want to over do it with Sandrena so started with 2 sachets then dropped to 1.5. I'm actually beginning to think I was better on 2 sachets as my brain seems a little foggy on 1.5. But it all seems to be trial and error.

Really hope it works out for you.

[Mrslolad]

Those calculations are helpful thank you.  Am wondering if I felt ok yesterday as the day before I was on 3 pumps of oestrogel- so theoretically my levels were higher? And the. Only having 1 sachet of sandrena yesterday and wasn’t enough… urgh.

My biggest issue is the anxiety as I still haven’t recovered from the crash I experienced in the summer when the patches stopped working.  I’ve been fighting against antid’s as I KNOW it’s hormonal but am now wondering if I need help mentally whilst I’m still battling to find the right hrt. 

What I wouldn’t give to go back to May when I was absolutely fine. I hate that this is such a battle.

Sorry…this has turned into a bit of a rant.  Thank you for all your advice x

[joziel]

From what I've read about Sandrena, at first it can be quite a 'hit' for some reason. There is some research which shows it is absorbed much faster than Oestrogel - so whilst the dose may be the same, the speed of your body absorbing it can give you a hit at first whilst you get it onboard. Oestrogel takes much longer to peak in the blood and is more slowly absorbed. So if you can, try to stick it out and see if it settles for you... or reduce and increase more gradually..... Once you get stable blood levels of it, it should be okay, it is probably just the onboarding phase....

[Mrslolad]

From what I've read about Sandrena, at first it can be quite a 'hit' for some reason. There is some research which shows it is absorbed much faster than Oestrogel - so whilst the dose may be the same, the speed of your body absorbing it can give you a hit at first whilst you get it onboard. Oestrogel takes much longer to peak in the blood and is more slowly absorbed. So if you can, try to stick it out and see if it settles for you... or reduce and increase more gradually..... Once you get stable blood levels of it, it should be okay, it is probably just the onboarding phase....

Thank you for responding.

This makes sense. I think I’m just so desperate to feel better. At this point I’d take two good days in a row as a win.  I was naively hoping that sandrena would be a miracle for me after everything I’ve been through.

I really appreciate you all taking the time to share your experiences and knowledge with me.

This journey can be very isolating…

[Banjo1973]

That's interesting... in that case do you think it would be worth taking in 2 doses ie am and pm?

[Mrslolad]

That's interesting... in that case do you think it would be worth taking in 2 doses ie am and pm?

I was doing that with oestrogel so maybe I need to do the same with sandrena?

[Banjo1973]

That's interesting... in that case do you think it would be worth taking in 2 doses ie am and pm?

I was doing that with oestrogel so maybe I need to do the same with sandrena?

Oh, in that case I think it might be a good idea.

I've just taken the 'spare' half now - you've inspired me.

I think I might just be a 2 sachets girl!

I am going to take 1 sachet in the morning and 1 sachet in the afternoon on the days I work (3 days a week). And one and a half sachets on the 4 days I don't work. I'll see how that goes. One and a half is definitely not enough as my brain is going a little bit spongey.

On a positive note, I've found loads of things today that had gone missing when I was in a new oestrogel brain fog state. Which means I am on the right track with Sandrena - just needs some fine tuning

Keep me posted Mrslolad

[Mrslolad]

That's interesting... in that case do you think it would be worth taking in 2 doses ie am and pm?

I was doing that with oestrogel so maybe I need to do the same with sandrena?

Oh, in that case I think it might be a good idea.

I've just taken the 'spare' half now - you've inspired me.

I think I might just be a 2 sachets girl!

I am going to take 1 sachet in the morning and 1 sachet in the afternoon on the days I work (3 days a week). And one and a half sachets on the 4 days I don't work. I'll see how that goes. One and a half is definitely not enough as my brain is going a little bit spongey.

On a positive note, I've found loads of things today that had gone missing when I was in a new oestrogel brain fog state. Which means I am on the right track with Sandrena - just needs some fine tuning

Keep me posted Mrslolad

Sounds like you’ve had a productive day! Gives me hope. 

I was on two pumps in the am and one at night so will up my Sandrena to try and match that. I have added an extra half this afternoon and I feel better…just knackered.  I’ve only got 1mg sachets so I’ll have to figure out the best way to split them without wasting!

I will keep you updated. Fingers crossed tomorrow is a better day x

[Banjo1973]

Good Luck!

Half sachets isn't so bad. There are 0.5mg sachets too, but my doc recommended me to stick with 1mg and split it in case I mixed them up. I think he gave good advice knowing how forgetful I can be.

Keep me posted - nothing new is plain sailing. Fingers crossed we find our way x