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[Christine79]

Hello! I'm new here. I am just starting my HRT journey and have been taking 2 pumps of oestrogel for 4 weeks now. I already had the mirena coil fitted. I am in perimenopause mid 40s.

I am really struggling with morning anxiety and was really hoping that this might have eased by now? It's getting to the point where I feel like it's impacting on my ability to work. 

Any advice? Do I need to give the oestrogel longer to feel affects.

Thanks in advance.

[CLKD]

Evening.  Has anxiety been 'a thing' in the past, prior to HRT?

I had intense anxiety caused by the morning hormone, cortisol.  It would shock in anytime after 3.30 a.m..  My GP prescribed Propranolol to ease those surges.

Some find that HRT can help.  It is suggested that 3-6 months if one can cope with any side effects B4 making decisions as to whether it is helping; unless side effects are unbearable.  During the time 1 may requite adjustments in dosage.

Let us know how you get on.

 

[Christine79]

No this anxiety is completely new to me! It's so out of character and I hate this feeling every morning. Yes also feel like I'm waking extra early with almost a panic feeling. Really is miserable.

[CLKD]

Awful.  U have my complete sympathy   

[discogirl]

Hi Christine79,

I would definately give the gel longer, 4 weeks isn't that long.

Mirena coil is known to cause anxiety and I'm wondering if it's the coil that causing the anxiety. How long have you had the coil fitted?

If you've had the coil in a while before you introduced the gel then maybe it's just your body adjusting.

There are other progesterone options and there are patches for estrogen which may suit you better.

[Fusseh]

Hi Christine
When you say the anxiety is completely new, do you mean it came along with peri or since you've been on hrt?
X

[Penguin]

When do you apply the gel? It may be worth applying one pump am and one pm so you have a more level amount of estrogen across a 24 hour period. I know the dose is meant to last 24 hours anyway but I apply my single pump in the morning and definitely feel a lowering of estrogen overnight. Low estrogen can trigger the cortisol that CLKD mentioned about so a pm dose might address that.

[joziel]

You probably need a higher dose of estrogen but you also have to give your 2 pumps however long the doctor wants you to give... Sometimes it's just 4-6 weeks, sometimes they want you to stay on that dose for 3 months.

[Losingtheplot]

Hello! I'm new here. I am just starting my HRT journey and have been taking 2 pumps of oestrogel for 4 weeks now. I already had the mirena coil fitted. I am in perimenopause mid 40s.

I am really struggling with morning anxiety and was really hoping that this might have eased by now? It's getting to the point where I feel like it's impacting on my ability to work. 

Any advice? Do I need to give the oestrogel longer to feel affects.

Thanks in advance.

Hi Christine79

I totally sympathise with you I also suffered from this and found that HRT settled these symptoms for me after about 8 weeks or so after starting sandrena gel for 14 days and Utrogestan for remaining 14 days.
I was advised to allow 3 months before deciding if the HRT was helping.
I am.also taking 1 x 20mg Ad daily so that may well be helping although not sure if its hormonal anixety like I felt mine was the Ad is helping or purely fhe HRT.
I also had propananol beta blockers to take as and when anixety, palpatations and jittery feeling was to intense.
There is no harm in seeing.if you can make an appointment to see or speak to your GP for advice.

I really hope you get sorted hunni big hugs xxxxx keep us updated xxx

[Christine79]

Thanks for all the lovely replies. Anxiety is a new symptom for me when I recognised I was having perimenopausal symptoms and before I started taking HRT estrogel. I had my mirena coil fitted over 3 years ago due to a fibroid and heavy periods.

My GP only wanted to see me after several months of oestrogel and prescribed me 3 months worth. I guess I need to give it another month. I just had this anxiety and not feeling myself x

[Angelasurrey]

Hi christine

The anxiety is exhausting. I’m still trying to optimise my HRT and feel the same as you.  . Will keep you posted in case I find anything that helps.
Hugs
Angela x

[Taz2]

Thanks for all the lovely replies. Anxiety is a new symptom for me when I recognised I was having perimenopausal symptoms and before I started taking HRT estrogel. I had my mirena coil fitted over 3 years ago due to a fibroid and heavy periods.

My GP only wanted to see me after several months of oestrogel and prescribed me 3 months worth. I guess I need to give it another month. I just had this anxiety and not feeling myself x

It is advised that you need to try each HRT for three months before you can tell whether it is the right one for you. It does take this long for it to take full effect and for any side effects to, hopefully, die down

Taz x 

[CLKD]

Anxiety can be draining and very scary 

[meno-mel]

Hi Christine,
I'd say give it longer.
I'm on week 17 of a 50 strength patch and I'm beginning to feel something positive in the last two weeks, I'm on utrogestan too, normally that causes very low mood and I cannot leave the house. Trying to travel anywhere in the last two years has been so incredibly difficult because the thought terrifies me. I've gone on long haul flights alone even in my early 40s and thought nothing of it, not any more, the anxiety is hard to tackle because it comes from no logical source so how do you talk yourself down?

I think taking utrogestan has helped. I was on provera but it made me so ill I could barely stand up, had to take time off work for it, so eventually they allowed me utrogestan. I had the mirena before and it made me anxious and down feeling for the first few months and occasionally after that too. Fairly similar to utrogestan I think.

I should have been much more upset this morning, at this point I go off topic, oh dear. The news last night was all about the court case finishing yesterday, about a teenager getting shot by a soldier who the judge described as "a danger to those he was there to protect" and the 15 year old was completely exonerated of all wrongdoing, completely innocent. There was no gun, he was not a danger to the soldiers, he was walking home from the shops and the soldier guilty of the boy's murder, who died 40 years after the murder still a free man, he had been heard to say before going out on patrol that he was "going to waste some b*st*rd". The boy was in the same school year as my husband.

Normally when these reports come on while I'm on progesterone I melt down in tears at the way the English government want to cover it up by making our lives mean less than theirs under the law.

I'll not call the murderer a criminal because our lovely poppytoast was deleted for doing that, by the moderators here. She got upset about a different child murdered by a soldier and that recently revealed cover up and mentioned some rapes too, but poppytoast actually likes the army to an extent so she made the distinction between decent soldiers and the criminals they chose to hide within their ranks. I do no such thing because it's irrelevant. Any man who murders a child should be handed over to the police and face criminal charges. In my book those hiding them are criminals too.The idea that anyone would get deleted for condemning child murder is why poppytoast refuses to come back, she says it's racist and I find it really hard to see how she is wrong there. Even the moderators refused to give an actual reason for deleting poppytoast when she asked. They just sent their T&Cs which states they don't need to give a reason for removing any member. So long everyone, lol, I'm sure I'll be next.

Anyway the reason I would be really upset isn't just from the news and from the way the national news blocked the reporting of it last night (as usual), it isn't just the racism and injustice of treating a Northern Irish kid like he's less than a GB kid, less than human in fact with the English Government's blanket amnesty for those who cooperate with the British, coming from a Westminister parliament near you, challenged by human rights groups and every single political party and elected representative in Ireland, north or south, who say you must treat the murder of an Irish kid the same as the murder of an English kid who was walking home from the shops after school, if they were shot dead by a gunman of any uniform or none.

What was on the English news instead?

A French kid got shot by French security forces, sound familiar?
Couldn't report on an English soldier murdering an Irish kid and the 48 years of cover up lies blackening the family's name ever since.
No, just look at the French instead.

Sorry, the point is that me being as calm as this, given those circumstances of dragging up the past, which while English voters don't care, it's all very painful for people in Northern Ireland and it remains painful when we get kicked in the teeth too, I'm calm enough given the circumstances to categorically say, this hrt is starting to feel calmer and less panicky for me.

I think the past trauma makes me panic too much now when things feel out of control, the new legislation is causing untold harm to thousands of innocent victims who will now be blamed forever because the English Government is the biggest and don't need to play fair.

Was nice knowing you all, lol. This will be censored, I'm certain of it even though there is nothing but truth.
Sometimes the truth can be a hard pill to swallow if you've grown up in England thinking the troubles were just fine and dandy.

Well said.
On the subject of misinformation, I read yesterday that men have more testosterone which results in changes such as the growth of facial, chest and underarm hair!
I think the author was young enough to not realise women naturally have underarm hair too

[sheila99]

OP, my experience is that anxiety is one of those symptoms that takes longer to resolve. My worst symptoms were anxiety and insomnia, I hadn't suffered from either before peri. I saw very little improvement on the first month then very much up and down for the next two, it wasn't until the end of month 3 that I it was consistently good. If you've seen any improvement at all however transient I'd consider it a positive. Hopefully the next couple of months will be better.